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The new situation for Spain/international coallition

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Squid

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Taken from another forum:

Interesting thing just occured in spain.

With the majority popular party slimly leading in the polls up until 3/11...the actions of the terroist has caused spain to do a complete about face.

Now the socialist appear to have dominated the recent elections, with 79%of the vote. Of course, one of the socialist platforms was being opposed to partaking in the coalition in Iraq. Now Spain is pulling out of Iraq by next month.

The news that the attack was appearently from al qaeda, galvanized spainish voters to reject the gov't current course and voted for change. Many of the voters were angry that they felt the govt tried to blame basque seperatist from their own nation, as it could have helped the popular party. While I don't pretend to know if that is what they tried to do or not, I believe the spanish gov't took the wrong course of action in response to the attack. More on that latter.

So why do I see the change as such a bad thing? Simple, they've bent to the will of the terrorist.

The terrorist who claimed to be punishing spain for their participtaion in Iraq had a desired outcome...to change the policy and get spain out. It looks like this might have been accomplished during the election.

So what now? Do they see the desires of the terrorist as something that they should appearently account for when making foriegn policy decisions; IE cultivate it so that it doesn't impede the will of fanatics who would murder innocent civilians living their ordinary lives?

What is especially troubling, is that it now may appear that the terrorist had connections with an al qaeda member who is jailed in spain in connection with 9/11 here in the US, and is probably why 3/11 was a significant date for them to carry out the attack. So how does spain deal with that? Would they then chose to release this individual for fear of further retribution, if it is demanded of them?

What about future issues? Does spain now turn it's back on the rest of the world for fear of offending fanatics? How will it deal with the ETA/Basque seperatist within it's own borders now? If you don't kill anyone, we will give you what you want?

What is sad though, instead of demonstrating to the spanish people WHY terrorism must be erradicated, the spanish have shown terrorist the way to victory
 

NeoCortex

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Oh yeah, This is great. Just wait till there's another election in Europe. or god forbid here and see how the terrorist handle it. Spain has proven that all they need to do is kill some poeple to get they're way. Thank you Spain!!
 

Squid

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"To fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting." - Sun Tzu
 

Flash

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The Spanish electorate has been overwhelmingly against Sanish involvement in Iraq and the cozy relationship Prime Minister Anzar had with Bush. When the 7 Spanish Intel officers were killed in Iraq there was an outpouring of anger directed at the Anzar government. So the ruling coalition was on shaky ground to begin with.

What apparently cost them the most was how the government responded to the who was to blame for the bombings. They quickly blamed the Basque terrorist group ETA and kept saying they did it after mounting evidence said they had not. It appeared to many of the people the Anzar government was playing politics and the voters responded.

What I am saying is that it is a little more complicated than the Spanish bowing to the terrorists and giving up the fight. While it is very disturbing that such an event did have an impact on a democratic election, there are deeper issues than what we generally don't see in the news here that are also a factor (ie: domestic Spanish issues). Spain is a democracy and they say all politics is local.
 

NeoCortex

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than what we generally don't see in the news here that are also a factor

I agree with that totally, but it doesn't matter what the real reasons are, just how they are percieved. To the world it looks like Spain bowed under pressure. Therefore, the terrorist will try it again.
 

Flash

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I agree with that totally, but it doesn't matter what the real reasons are, just how they are percieved. To the world it looks like Spain bowed under pressure. Therefore, the terrorist will try it again.

Percieved here possibly, but maybe differently elsewhere. Plus, maybe the Spaniards don't care, who knows? Any Spaniards on the site? And the terrorists are going to try no matter what, we can only try our best to prevent it.
 
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