Silencer Operation

[monarch_2011]

FWIW, my friend has a little experience operating with silenced weapons and he informed me that when you have to use them, you will usually have the weapon "very close" to the target, i.e. against the back of his head. Someone's melon suppresses the FRP nicely...

 

[FMRAM]

FWIW, my friend has a little experience operating with silenced weapons and he informed me that when you have to use them, you will usually have the weapon "very close" to the target, i.e. against the back of his head. Someone's melon suppresses the FRP nicely...

Are you serious? :sleep_125

 

[Rocketman]

For those without any experience with suppressors, the .22 cal pistol on my son's hip had a louder report then the silenced .223 AR we were shooting. Wish I could give you details about he suppressor and weapon, but I can't remember. All I remember about the set up is the $$$$$$$!

There are a couple of guys over on 68forums.com that hunt hogs in South Texas with suppressed ARs. They hunt them at night with NVGs too. When my kid gets to P'cola we are going to drive up there and get some of that action........

 

[A4sForever]

FWIW, my friend has a little experience operating with silenced weapons and he informed me that when you have to use them, you will usually have the weapon "very close" to the target, i.e. against the back of his head. Someone's melon suppresses the FRP nicely...

-1 Rep. Absolutely ridiculous. I can see you've been watching too many movies.

 

[xmid]

I've been lucky enough to shoot alot of suppressed stuff and the .22's are some of the coolest because they are the only ones that are truly "movie quiet". With most of the rifle calibers, I was told they are used to cut down the enemies ability to locate the shooter. I've shot the MK23 with an AAC can both wet and dry and it substantially cut down on both first round pop and subsequent shots. I was told thats because it helps cool the heated/expanding gases and slows them down. Don't know if thats the complete answer, but it was from a very reputable source.

 

[A4sForever]

BTW ... if memory serves, the "historical origin" of the FEDs getting involved w/ suppressors/silencers originated in the National Firearms Act of 1934 ...

It was thought that suppressors would be used to "poach" cattle/food during the Great Depression ... thus the federal regulation and the $200 tax on them ... as it was thought the "little people" who needed food would not be able to afford them ...

But: another $200 tax --- today --- just to own something that provides good-neighbor noise suppression of a firearm???

I LOVE the fuckin' government, and the government loves fucking me.

 

[xmid]

I'm just glad they seem to stay under the "political radar" for the most part... I wish MG's had been so successful. I'd have no problem paying the $200 tax if I could purchase new MG's at cost instead of this rediculous price inflation.

 

[A4sForever]

I'm just glad they seem to stay under the "political radar" for the most part...

The most recent attempt I'm familiar w/ to bring a return to sanity re: suppressors died in committee in the state legislature for lack of support ... as the "city folk" -- those who watch too many movies -- run the state house and could not bring themselves to move the bill along. It was re-introduced this year by a rural Democrat legislator -- but it died in committee, as I said.

In one of the two states I maintain a residence in (they used to be legal in this particular state) -- it's legal to own and mount a suppressor on a firearm after jumping through the hoops the Feds put forth ... you just can't discharge the firearm w/ the suppressor mounted.

Makes sense to me, yea-as ???

 

[feddoc]

http://www.subguns.org/products/cans/ATAS/movies/ATAS45.mpg

Here is a link to the same model can/gun as mine. He is firing it in a closed two car garage.

 

[wink]

But it's a revolver -- and Hollywood notwithstanding -- my info (and best guess) is that suppressors "don't work" on revolvers ???

My point was that that unsuppressed .22 4" revolver was louder then the suppressed high power rifle.

 

[A4sForever]

My point was that that unsuppressed .22 4" revolver was louder then the suppressed high power rifle.

Oh ... I thought you meant they were "both" suppressed. Not surprising, though .... as I've always found an unsuppressed .22 LR to be quite loud -- quite a "crack".

 

[FlyinSpy]

By the way, IMHO calling a supressor a silencer is like calling a CVN a ship.

Hiram Maxim invented them, and he always called them silencers. I've figured if it was good enough for him, it's good enough for me...

Interesting background and early ad for his invention here: http://www.aacblog.com/?p=788

He also had a longstanding interest in aviation; no doubt if he were around today, he'd be reading this thread! http://www.earlyaviators.com/emaxim09.htm

 

[insanebikerboy]

But it's a revolver -- and Hollywood notwithstanding -- my info (and best guess) is that suppressors "don't work" on revolvers ???

From talking with guys that know more about it than me, they can apparently "work", just not that well. It depends a lot on how snugly the cylinder mates/seals with the barrel.

Then again, no revolvers (that I know of) are tapped for a silencer. That may be the whole chicken or egg argument, but the merit of putting a silencer on a revolver would appear to be wholly academic.

 

[HeyJoe]

Then again, no revolvers (that I know of) are tapped for a silencer.

Except the ones that routinely show up in Hollywood movies

 

[Junkball]

From talking with guys that know more about it than me, they can apparently "work", just not that well. It depends a lot on how snugly the cylinder mates/seals with the barrel.

Then again, no revolvers (that I know of) are tapped for a silencer. That may be the whole chicken or egg argument, but the merit of putting a silencer on a revolver would appear to be wholly academic.

The Russkies have had one for awhile:
Nagant M1895 Revolver
Silenced/Suppressed

Has a relatively complex gas-seal design where the cylinder is pushed forward to eliminate the cylinder-barrel gap