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Question about base pay for PLC grads

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F18Navig8tor

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I am a newly commissioned lieutenant awaiting TBS and was wondering about the base pay. I signed my PLC contract in November of 2001, went to OCS in July of 2002 and again in May of 2003. My question was, how many years do I have going toward my base pay? Am I an O-1 with 1, 2 or 3 years in? I know some of that time counts toward my base pay, but I am not sure if it starts when I went to OCS or when I signed my contract.
 
Taxman2A

Taxman2A

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Your pay entry base date starts the first day you were at OCS. For you this will be July 2002, making you an O-1 with 2 years in already. You will hit over 3 years this July.

This doesn't apply to you, but FYI- there is a PEBD limit for PLCers. In other words, if you were a slow student who originally went to OCS in 2000 and hadn't been commissioned yet, you wouldn't come in over 4 or anything like that. I think the limit is 3 years but I'm not sure on that.
 
ZGXtreme

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Tax...

So if I add this up right once I commission should I go PLC, I will be an O-1 with 5 years in. 3 Active Enlisted and 2 from the point I first report to Quantico?
 
Taxman2A

Taxman2A

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That's an interesting situation- not sure how that would work out since you would have had "broken time"... I'm sure one the guys around here who was enlisted, then got out and did PLC could give you a better answer than my speculation (E5B?)
 
gaijin6423

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Broken time still counts as service time. I didn't do PLC, but I was enlisted for just under four years before going to college, when I got my commission, that time counted for my pay purposes and put me at O1 over 3 immediately. A good way to clarify how much time in you've got on the books is to look at your Pay Entry Base Date (PEBD on the LES). If you've got broken time, they'll back-date the calander date to reflect your total time in service, so you want to make sure that it reflects the length of your enlistment on your DD-214 form, PLUS however long you rate for the PLC program, time past your commission date, etc.
 
ZGXtreme

ZGXtreme

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Thanks GA, nice to know I will be a little better off in the pay area should I be blessed enough to come back into the Corps.

Cpl. G
 
gaijin6423

gaijin6423

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Yeah, you got it right, huey. Although, there are sometimes headaches when it comes to getting your pay entry base date (PEBD) sorted out. The Gunny and Cpl who handled my paperwork did great job avoiding that for me, but one or two of my friends were getting paid as O-1 <2 for the first half of TBS when they should have been O-1E >8. We had a pretty kick ass party once they got their back pay, though.
 
E5B

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I did 4 years active got out and did the PLC program and commissioned July 02. My PEBD is in Sept 94, so my 'years' on my LES reflects that. However, my active duty base date is Sept 98 which means 20 years after that date, I can retire (as long as you have 10 years as an officer).

As far as broken time goes, I don't have any when it comes to time/pay, but I do when it comes to retirement. As far as I know, the PLC program doesn't count for retirement.

There are two ways you can go with the PLC program as far as pay. You can take the FAP ($) and your PEBD will start when you commission, OR you can not accept that cash and your PEBD starts when you report to OCS for the first time. In the long run the time will pay off. However, if you are prior enlisted that goes out the window.
 
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PEBD is date of signature for OCS

Don't mean to contradict, but believe for PLC.... your Pay Entry Base Date starts the day you sign the contract, NOT the day you start OCS. It doesn't count towards retirement, but does for payscale purposes. Over a 20 year career..... it can REALLY add up.
 
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Our Corps

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Pebd

For PLC's, PEBD is the date you signed your contract AND the date from which your pay is calculated for longevity purposes (many PLC's get commissioned as an 0-1>2 or 4 years due to this). AFADBD is the day you came on active duty as a commissioned officer and is used to compute longevity for retirement purposes. When you get commissioned, your AFADBD will be that day (i.e. 01 July 05) backed up by the amount of time you spent on active duty in OCS (usually either 10 weeks for combined or 12 weeks for Jr/Sr). This credits you with all your active duty time and will become the date from which....20 years hence, you are eligible to retire.
 
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