PLC-Air question

[JTB7]

"Nearly 30% of Marine Corps Officers are pilots. The Platoon Leaders Class -- Aviation option guarantees qualified students that they will attend flight training to fly for the Marine Corps upon graduation from college and The Basic School."
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-www.chicagomarineofficer.com/Downloads/Officerprograms/AVIATION.doc

Is PLC the only commissioning source that guarantees flight training? Also, it says 'qualified students.' does anyone now the exact qualifications?

Thanks,
JT
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[insanebikerboy]

"Nearly 30% of Marine Corps Officers are pilots. The Platoon Leaders Class -- Aviation option guarantees qualified students that they will attend flight training to fly for the Marine Corps upon graduation from college and The Basic School."
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-www.chicagomarineofficer.com/Downloads/Officerprograms/AVIATION.doc

Is PLC the only commissioning source that guarantees flight training? Also, it says 'qualified students.' does anyone now the exact qualifications?

Thanks,
JT
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I'm not too savvy on Marine PLC but I think the first qualification is S.E.A.R.C.H.

 

[JTB7]

I'm not too savvy on Marine PLC but I think the first qualification is S.E.A.R.C.H.

Sorry, I'm new to this site. Didn't see the search or best threads forum.

 

[HH-60H]

Sorry, I'm new to this site. Didn't see the search or best threads forum.

It's no problem.... Welcome to the site. After reading those threads and running some searches, feel free to ask any additional questions you might have.

 

[JTB7]

It's no problem.... Welcome to the site. After reading those threads and running some searches, feel free to ask any additional questions you might have.

Well, this was the closest thread I found to my question:
http://www.airwarriors.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5496
-But it didn't really talk about a guaranteed flight contract , just why he was having second thoughts on being a pilot.

I know you get a guaranteed flight training slot for qualifiedstudents through PLC and OCS. What about the USNA? Couldn't find anything about qualifications except that you have to do 100 situps/20 dead hand pullups/ 3 miles in 18 minutes. I can do the situps and the three miles in in under 18 minutes, but cannot do 20 dead hang pullups. Am I right about the physical requirements? Does anyone know the mental qualifications for the guaranteed flight contract?

EDIT: I read up more on the AVIATION.doc Found that only the Platoon Leaders Course and Officer Candidates Course guarantees you a slot in flight school.

"The Platoon Leaders Class-- Aviation option guarantees qualified students that they will attend flight training to fly for the Marine Corps upon graduation from college and The Basic School." Still wondering what the qualifications are. The Basic School is OCS, right?

 

[phrogpilot73]

I know you get a guaranteed flight training slot for qualifiedstudents through PLC and OCS. What about the USNA?

Yes. At the beginning of your senior year, you can select Navy Pilot/Navy NFO/Marine Pilot/Marine NFO.

Couldn't find anything about qualifications except that you have to do 100 situps/20 dead hand pullups/ 3 miles in 18 minutes. I can do the situps and the three miles in in under 18 minutes, but cannot do 20 dead hang pullups. Am I right about the physical requirements?

No. Those are the maximums. Minimums are 3 pullups, 3 miles in 28 minutes, and 50 pushups.

Does anyone know the mental qualifications for the guaranteed flight contract?

Umm, be Sane?

The Basic School is OCS, right?

No. OCS is Officer Candidates School, TBS is The Basic School. OCS evaluates you on your potential to lead Marines. TBS teaches you how to be a basic Infantry Rifle Platoon commander.

I'd keep browsing and searching if I were you... ALOT of this is discussed already.

 

[DocT]

To be qualified you must score well enough on the ASTB to be selected and you must successfully complete OCS and TBS. The guarantee continues to be a sticky term. Think of it more as a contract (which it is). If you uphold your end (OCS and TBS completion) the Marine Corps will uphold theirs (a seat in API).

Like Phrog said: Keep searching and reading.

 

[JTB7]

To be qualified you must score well enough on the ASTB to be selected and you must successfully complete OCS and TBS. The guarantee continues to be a sticky term. Think of it more as a contract (which it is). If you uphold your end (OCS and TBS completion) the Marine Corps will uphold theirs (a seat in API).

Like Phrog said: Keep searching and reading.

I kept searching and reading, found that you need to achieve a passing score on the ASTB which was a little higher than the Navys passing score (I think it was a 4/6/6) but, hey, you get an automatic slot in flight school and 25 hrs of flight training if you accept commission. I have a strong desire to be an officer in the USMC and become a pilot, so I will hold up my end.

 

[E5B]

I recommend finding the nearest OSO (officer selection officer) and start talking to him/her. It wouldn't hurt to start working on your pullups and keeping up with your running. Under 18 minutes, huh? Start reading up on the different T/M/S's (Type Model Series) that the USMC uses and the mission each one is responsible for.

 

[JTB7]

I recommend finding the nearest OSO (officer selection officer) and start talking to him/her. It wouldn't hurt to start working on your pullups and keeping up with your running. Under 18 minutes, huh? Start reading up on the different T/M/S's (Type Model Series) that the USMC uses and the mission each one is responsible for.

My nearest OSO is a thirty minute drive from my house, so I'll wait until I get my license. Woking on my pullups/pushups every day. I can do 10 dead hang pullups and 58 pushups, my 1.5 is 8 minutes flat [I run track] Got a 3.2 GPA as a freshman, hoping to do better as a sophomore
JETS
Fighters
FA/18 Hornet
Attack
AV-8B-Harrier EA-6B Prowler
A-4 Sky hawk(not sure if still in service)
Recon/Intel
EA-6B Prowler

HEAVY
C-130 Herc.

HELOS
Attack AH-1 Cobra
Transport
CH-53 Sea Stallion
CH-46 Sea Knight(hate it)
Ch-53E Super Sea Stallion
Recon/Evac
UH-1 Huey

Setting my sights on Jets, but if i get helos I will go Cobra or Sea Stallion. Does anyone know that if I graduate college/get commissioned by 2014, will I have to be a UAV pilot? Honestly, if I have to be a UAV pilot I would rather be enlisted Army.

edit: Just read some of the plan for the USMC.[http://hqinet001.hqmc.usmc.mil/AVN/Documents/Signed AvPlan.pdf]

"Vertical Unmanned Aircraft System (VUAS): As the Tier III replacement, VUAS will provide responsive, real-time reconnaissance, surveillance, intelligence, electronic attack, targeting and weapons employment capability that is organic to the Marine Air Ground Task Force and Joint Task Force Commanders. It will have the key attributes necessary to support EMW. These include vertical takeoff and landing from all air capable ships/austere land bases, the speedto be responsive and tactically agile, and the survivability required to effectively operate in denied access environments. The VUAS Initial Capabilities Document was approved in December of 2005. AnAnalysis of Alternatives is underway to examine existing UA systems, their costs, and ability to meet the Marine Corps requirements. The AoA will inform POM-10 programmatic decisions. VUAS has a planned IOC of 2015."
Aw crap. Right when I go through flight school they will come out with this unmanned plane stuff.

Seems with all the transitioning stuff my only hope for jets id the f-35b, and from this thread: http://www.airwarriors.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137414&highlight=f-35
I realize my chances of getting it are pretty damn slim

 

[Killer2]

My nearest OSO is a thirty minute drive from my house, so I'll wait until I get my license.

I am pretty sure you would have to wait until you made it into college before you think of making that drive. They wouldn't be able to tell you much in the way of what are your chances at an air contract since you are still in HS.

As for the "unmanned plane stuff" I wouldn't worry to much about that. Worry about having fun in HS and making grades, and not having bills.

 

[JTB7]

I am pretty sure you would have to wait until you made it into college before you think of making that drive. They wouldn't be able to tell you much in the way of what are your chances at an air contract since you are still in HS.

As for the "unmanned plane stuff" I wouldn't worry to much about that. Worry about having fun in HS and making grades, and not having bills.

Yeah, I probably won't do it until freshman year of college. I read through what planes they are upgrading, and it seems there still is many planes/helos that are still going to be manned. Around when I go to flight school, they will put the f-35b JSF in the fleet. After seeing that Live Free or Die hard trailer, that would be a really fun plane to fly. Except when the pilot had to eject.

 

[phrogpilot73]

CH-46 Sea Knight(hate it)

So, just out of curiosity - what leads you to hate the CH-46E? Being that you're still a Sophomore in HS, I'm guessing you aren't ever going to get the chance to fly one... However, I loved every bit of the 1000+ hours I have in it...

 

[JTB7]

So, just out of curiosity - what leads you to hate the CH-46E? Being that you're still a Sophomore in HS, I'm guessing you aren't ever going to get the chance to fly one... However, I loved every bit of the 1000+ hours I have in it...

No offense, but it is the ugliest helo I have ever seen. I don't like what they are replacing it with either, the MV-22. The Center for Defense Information report, titled "V-22 Osprey: Wonder Weapon or Widow Maker? They warned us. But no one is listening," includes nearly 50 pages of text sharply criticizing the tilt rotor's combat capability and lack of testing. "If deployed in combat, the price could be fatalities inflicted not just by enemy fire, but by flaws that were the result of omitted tests and basic design deficiencies pointed out but never addressed," wrote Lee Gaillard, a former Marine reservist who has published more than 100 articles and book reviews on defense issues and aviation.