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New helo trainer at Rucker?

wink

VS NFO. Blue and Gold Officer
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I'll ask here only because it is the most active helo thread now. Is there currently some sort of availability problem with the TH-57? My son is an engineer for a company that supports the TH-57 and Dyncorp maintenance. He is working on an issue and I am curious about impact in the HTs.
 

croakerfish

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I'll ask here only because it is the most active helo thread now. Is there currently some sort of availability problem with the TH-57? My son is an engineer for a company that supports the TH-57 and Dyncorp maintenance. He is working on an issue and I am curious about impact in the HTs.
There are numerous parts availability problems looming, particularly for the engine. There are a few more impacting the fleet right now, most notably the yaw trim servo for the Charlies.
 

phrogdriver

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ChuckMK23

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Its interesting to me contrasting the three different aircraft used in the US to train helo pilots - basically doing the same thing. All 3 have glass cockpits, and IFR certified and all more or less in the same weight and HP range.

I still think the AF took the most efficient and pragmatic path - installing all new avionics and dynamic components in refurbished/0 time H-1 airframes that was completed under a total under the radar acquisition model since there were not "new aircraft". Time will tell.

Army TH-67's are being snatched up in droves for public/civ use.

Navy TH-73 6,283 LBS MGTOW, 1,000 SHP
29902

Air Force TH-1H 10,500 LBS MGTOW, 1,600 SHP
29903

Army UH-72 7,904 LBS MGTOW 1,476 SHP (2 x 738 SHP)
29904
 

ChuckMK23

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I can see the AD now
I know that's tongue in cheek - but these aircraft were all maintained to the original FAA type certificate and carried FAA airworthiness certificates during service. Cycles and times in the 206 series are well understood. There are a lot of high time 206BIII's out there that see really hard use in the commercial sector. And a plethora of aftermarket products and STC's to improve performance and lower costs keep being introduced.
 

Griz882

Livin' On the Right Side of the River From Pags!
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I know that's tongue in cheek - but these aircraft were all maintained to the original FAA type certificate and carried FAA airworthiness certificates during service. Cycles and times in the 206 series are well understood. There are a lot of high time 206BIII's out there that see really hard use in the commercial sector. And a plethora of aftermarket products and STC's to improve performance and lower costs keep being introduced.
Everyone being auctioned now has an N reg.
 
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wink

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You could afford to buy, fly, and maintain about two and a half 206B’s for one UH-1!
Mostly true. But no Jet Ranger sounds as cool as a Huey, has the combat bona fides and is so iconic. I even think a Huey can carry more than 2.5 206Bs. Certainly carries more pax and has flown more heros than any other helo.
 

Griz882

Livin' On the Right Side of the River From Pags!
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Mostly true. But no Jet Ranger sounds as cool as a Huey, has the combat bona fides and is so iconic. I even think a Huey can carry more than 2.5 206Bs. Certainly carries more pax and has flown more heros than any other helo.
No question about that...Huey is THE helicopter...but sadly, the money would have to be mine.
 
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