Minot AFB. B52 incident and accident, All aircrew safe.

[Malo83]

Not a good week for the Minot B52 Wing,
http://www.businessinsider.com/a-b-...f-from-andersen-air-force-base-in-guam-2016-5

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/engine-literally-fell-off-us-190429958.html

 

[Flash]

The crash in Guam happened last May. As for the latest incident, I guess that can go into the BFTFOA file.

 

[Pags]

Ah, the dreaded seven engine approach.

 

[picklesuit]

I'm going to speculate the MO will be getting no sleep for a while...

 

[Ken_gone_flying]

I'm going to speculate the MO will be getting no sleep for a while...

You know the rules, no speculation.

 

[robav8r]

Seriously, how the fuck does an engine just "fall off" the aircraft without someone, anyone noticing the indications of metal fatigue, corrosion, etc. ???

 

[Treetop Flyer]

Seriously, how the fuck does an engine just "fall off" the aircraft without someone, anyone noticing the indications of metal fatigue, corrosion, etc. ???

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_191

American flight 191, a DC-10 had an engine come off the wing. It took the hydraulics with it and things got worse.

 

[Pags]

Seriously, how the fuck does an engine just "fall off" the aircraft without someone, anyone noticing the indications of metal fatigue, corrosion, etc. ???

Has happened before on civil airliners such as AA 191:

In this case the motor fell off due to fatigue in the pylon caused by improper maintenance.

 

[Pags]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_191

American flight 191, a DC-10 had an engine come off the wing. It took the hydraulics with it and things got worse.

I like where your head's at.

 

[robav8r]

Has happened before on civil airliners such as AA 191:
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In this case the motor fell off due to fatigue in the pylon caused by improper maintenance.

Yeah, no shit. Kinda my point.

 

[Pags]

Yeah, no shit. Kinda my point.

And my point was that the improper maintenance on AA191 and the resulting fatigue wasn't found out until several weeks after the maintenance was performed. Nothing out of the ordinary was noticed in that time until the motor fell off of the jet. Things that are wrong with internal structures can easily go unnoticed until the point of failure.

 

[insanebikerboy]

Ah, the dreaded seven engine approach.

I logged about 5 hours in a B-52 once. As a helo bubba seeing that 7 engine approach was interesting. The CRM wasn't anything abnormal, and they rolled back the opposing good engine to alleviate any adverse yaw. According to the aircraft commander, in real world emergency losing another engine (down to 5) would actually be a pretty bad day, partly due to the sheer size of aircraft as well as the type of flight controls that the B-52 has.

 

[Randy Daytona]

I logged about 5 hours in a B-52 once. As a helo bubba seeing that 7 engine approach was interesting. The CRM wasn't anything abnormal, and they rolled back the opposing good engine to alleviate any adverse yaw. According to the aircraft commander, in real world emergency losing another engine (down to 5) would actually be a pretty bad day, partly due to the sheer size of aircraft as well as the type of flight controls that the B-52 has.

Speaking of engines on the B-52, perhaps the Air Force is finally preparing to re-engine this classic machine.

The U.S. Air Force’s strategy for ensuring the nuclear deterrence and conventional firepower of its bomber forces through the 2050s and beyond will require installing commercial jet engines onto its B-52s.

https://aerospaceamerica.aiaa.org/features/re-engining-a-legend/




A U.S. airman checks the eight J57 engines on a B-52 at Tinker Air Force Base, Okla., in the late 1950s. The Air Force shifted to TF33 turbofan engines for today's B-52H versions that began flying in operations in 1961.

 

[Brett327]

Maybe they can replace those 8 ridiculously inefficient low-bypass engines with 4 modern ones.

 

[nittany03]

Maybe they can replace those 8 ridiculously inefficient low-bypass engines with 4 modern ones.

I was reading another article that said they'd considered that and shitcanned the idea.

Ah, here it is. FTA: "First, it wants new — not refurbished — systems and intends to maintain an eight-engine configuration on each B-52, knocking out competitors who have floated a four-engine solution. The engines must be able to be integrated without having to significantly rework the B-52’s wings, although the service expects some design changes to structures such as struts and nacelles may be necessary. "