CryptoCode
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Anyone have some gouge on the training pipeline, rotation length, approximate duties, and desired background for a class officer at OTCN Newport?
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How to be an OTCN Class Officer
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Have a pulse, apply to go there on your shore duty, and expect to be there 1-2 years. Most of the officers I met there (Both when I was at OCS and afterwards) got stashed there on their way to SWOS for Dept Head School. Others were preparing to get out and wanted to be close to family. The last time I checked, it wasn't very competitive to go there. They were hurting for people.
Fail utterly in your first sea tour. Schools commands are the graveyards of officer careers.
But still would make OP AV DH in this current promotion and retention climate.
You ain’t lying. One of my API instructors is coming through as a DH now, 6 years out of cockpit
It's wild to me how wildly we (Big Navy) swing back and forth between selection rates for DH and promotion to O4. Just a few years ago, my Airdale buddies were getting their walking papers and a big middle finger simply because they transferred at the wrong time. Now everybody is getting picked up. Why can't we ever reach a steady state where we don't swing back and forth? And I don't mean in the Sub and SWO way where everybody is miserable so retention is always terrible and selection rates are always high.
I suspect a lot of this reflects the airline hiring trends which are also very cyclical, among other things.
Because retention is never at a steady state.
Had a DH who was there for shore but he was in a weird situation where he got hurt at BUD/S and sat for a long time in medical holds before getting redesignated SWO. His timeline was way behind the power curve and he only ended up with about 8 months of shore duty between second divo tour and DH school. He didn't really have a lot to say positive about working at the school house. I know at least the OCS side tends to pick URL as the vast majority of candidates in the course are.
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The sub community doesn't want DH screening to be selective. The board only exists to weed out the people who absolutely cannot hack it in the military and/or people with disciplinary issues.
If there's a good retention year, DH tours simply get shorter. When retention is down, DH tours get longer.
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Not always. SWOs are more flexible on shore assignments, similarly the 1120s/Sub Nukes.
For the others, it seems for the most part that there’s either personal (family close to duty station) or professional ambitions (off ramp to lateral transfer) with choosing NETC-school house orders.
Going back to the OP, it appears you are going to be an IWC officer. I don’t even think you can choose orders there as a 18XX/RL type. If so, like what @Brett327 said, it’s the kiss of death of your career, unless you are trying to network/off-ramp to another community (HR community for example).
I HAVE heard of IWC officers now being assigned as NROTC class instructors at universities- I know of one going to either VT or VMI. It’ll be interesting to see how that pans out, assuming that person wants to promote and grow.
OP, your safest bet would be teaching at one of the IWC schoolhouses but I would double check with your mentors and IWC community guidance to ensure it is valued.