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D. W. Hooks Airport

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jg5343

FLY NAVY...Divers need the work
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I live next to Hooks here north of Houston and see training planes in and out of there all the time. I saw one last night as I was leaving the airport at 1130p (2330 for you military types) and was wondering why they would stay over night in Houston. I was wanting to know how stuff like that works since my family will more than likely be staying here. Is there some sort of loop hole that allows you to fly 'training' hops to your home town? Thanks

BTW- it was a T-34 and said TAW-4 on the tail along with a large G.
 

bch

Helo Bubba
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Aircraft from CTW-4 will go there often on in and outs. fly up, eat , fly home. Hooks is a favorite since everything on the menu is $1 with the purchase of fuel (which they do).If it is a training A/C (per OPNAV) a military a/c may land at a non military facility.

All Cross country ops are usually over the weekend. You can pretty much go whereever you want, provided you find an instructor who wants to go there. For example, my primary CCX was to Pecos, Fort Worth, San Antonio. ( not by choice, WX made us stay in TX.)
 

jg5343

FLY NAVY...Divers need the work
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bch said:
If it is a training A/C (per OPNAV) a military a/c may land at a non military facility.


On a side note, I saw a super hornet at hooks about 4 weeks ago on a Saturday. I was not close enought to be able to see the markings on it, but it was for sure a super and it was talking off at Hooks. I have really been wondering what he was doing there. (It was a single seater, and alone as far as I could tell)
 

bch

Helo Bubba
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there could be any number of reasons, I have no idea.... but it could be anything from getting gas (hooks has contract gas) to a PR thing.
 

Bevo16

Registered User
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Hooks has a lot of good approaches available and it is a good chance to get a student exposed to class bravo airspace without having to deal with landing at a big airport. I stopped there before the last leg home on one of my cross countries. The diner at Hooks is pretty good, and like bch said, it's all 1$ when you buy gas. They also have some hot chicks that pick you up at the a/c in the golf cart and take care of the fuel and stuff. I think that some of the IP's like to go up there just for the scenery.

Their runway is pretty small though, and I am surprised that an F-18 would land there.
 

jg5343

FLY NAVY...Divers need the work
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Its funny you say that, because that is the first time I have ever seen any plane take off starting at the very tip of the threadshold. You know, the chevrons you can take off on but can't land on. He had to back taxi about 250 feet to get there and turn around. Then it sounded like the engine were really wound up before he started moving. He left the ground well before the end of the runway though, maybe 3/4 down. He must have blown all kinds of stuff on the passing cars, he is only 20 yards from the road at the begining of the threashold with only that chainlink fence to block.
 

Bevo16

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I am sure that taking off was a lot easier than the landing. An F-18 went off the runway at North Island just a couple of weeks ago. If the RW here is not long enough, I don't know how the hell he got one stopped at Hooks. Maybe one of the jet guys will know the answer to that. When I think of landings, I think of spots and LZ's not runways.
 

squeeze

Retired Harrier Dude
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Hooks has a 7000' runway. It's plenty for a jet to land on. We are limited to 6000 footers unless we have a waiver from our CO. Granted, the Hornet weighs a bit more than a -45, I'm sure the brakes are up to the task. If you REALLY get on the binders, the 45 will stop in ~2000 feet, but we use 6000' of rollout min per SOP due to the squirreliness of the thing.
 
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RickyDT34

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Bevo said:
I am sure that taking off was a lot easier than the landing. An F-18 went off the runway at North Island just a couple of weeks ago. If the RW here is not long enough, I don't know how the hell he got one stopped at Hooks. Maybe one of the jet guys will know the answer to that. When I think of landings, I think of spots and LZ's not runways.

Have you heard why he ran off the runway. I heard something about brake problems but if so why didn't he go around and use the hook?
 

squeeze

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RickyDT34 said:
Have you heard why he ran off the runway. I heard something about brake problems but if so why didn't he go around and use the hook?

The people who have "heard" the real story aren't going to tell you. SIR's are privileged information. We've addressed that topic more than a few times on this site. This is not the place to discuss mishaps. Period.
 

Bevo16

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RickyDT34 said:
Have you heard why he ran off the runway. I heard something about brake problems but if so why didn't he go around and use the hook?

Yea, the runway was not long enough. :icon_tong

Everything that I have heard indicate that the pilot was not at fault.

In the end, he walked away. That makes it a successful landing.
 
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RickyDT34

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squeeze said:
The people who have "heard" the real story aren't going to tell you. SIR's are privileged information. We've addressed that topic more than a few times on this site. This is not the place to discuss mishaps. Period.
oops...my mistake
 

skidkid

CAS Czar
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Pecos still do burritos and ice cream what a great deal that was. Wouldnt want to break down there but a nice place to stop.
 
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