So there I was left wing down right top rudder....90 AOB and STILL off centerline 
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/06/20/wind.damage.ap/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/06/20/wind.damage.ap/index.html
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Crosswind Correction
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MABUHAY!!!
In the B747 I go both ways -- please pardon the illusion. The -200 is still a pure airplane -- although BIG --- no smoke and mirrors on approach. The basics still count ..... crab or wing down/top rudder. It usually depends on the actual wind/WX conditions--how stong is the X-wind, am I IFR (??), did I just cross the Pacific and am I tired (??) ....... no one-size-fits-all.
Wing down/top rudder (WDTR)---that's usually my friend......until @ 50' AGL when I make the transition to landing flare----after touchdown put the aileron back in to keep the upwind wing from rising -- and it wants to -- lots of area out there. You also have to steer with the rudders/nosewheel steering-- that's obvious. In some limits X-wind conditions I could not really keep centerline with both working--I just tried to minimize the drift until the nosewheel steering was safe and the rudders were not effective. You also must be very judicious with your ailerons to not skag #1 or #4 engine pod on the ground---some have, to their eternal dismay.
Some guys--myself included--favor a slight, repeat: SLIGHT upwind lineup orientation if we are going to "crab" all the way down glideslope. Makes the workload a little less on approach. We are on the end of a long "moment arm" --- way out there in the B747 cockpit. If you visually put the cockpit on centerline in a crab---you will be offset on the downwind side when you take the crab out to line up in close.
Actually, a typical Whale high X-wind approach & landing might be:
Crab --- for much of the approach....
to "WDTR" in-close....
to "finesse" the CL and the flare....
to immediate wings level touchdown....
to immediate aileron into the wind & steer with rudder/NWS....
to go to the hotel and have a Kirin or Sapporo and some gyoza....
Can't learn it in the books --- they don't address it -- it's self-taught -- believe it. You come to the airline with everyone figuring you KNOW how to fly. The only guys who get fired are the ones who prove otherwise ..... but it's still just an airplane.
And then there was the 60 knot quartering X-wind coming into Agana for the first arrival in two days on the backside of Typhoon Paka with a plane load of vacation-hungry Jap(anese) who really wanted to get there bad .... I lost a F/O on that one ......
..... let's go the the pool !!!
In the B747 I go both ways -- please pardon the illusion. The -200 is still a pure airplane -- although BIG --- no smoke and mirrors on approach. The basics still count ..... crab or wing down/top rudder. It usually depends on the actual wind/WX conditions--how stong is the X-wind, am I IFR (??), did I just cross the Pacific and am I tired (??) ....... no one-size-fits-all.
Wing down/top rudder (WDTR)---that's usually my friend......until @ 50' AGL when I make the transition to landing flare----after touchdown put the aileron back in to keep the upwind wing from rising -- and it wants to -- lots of area out there. You also have to steer with the rudders/nosewheel steering-- that's obvious. In some limits X-wind conditions I could not really keep centerline with both working--I just tried to minimize the drift until the nosewheel steering was safe and the rudders were not effective. You also must be very judicious with your ailerons to not skag #1 or #4 engine pod on the ground---some have, to their eternal dismay.
Some guys--myself included--favor a slight, repeat: SLIGHT upwind lineup orientation if we are going to "crab" all the way down glideslope. Makes the workload a little less on approach. We are on the end of a long "moment arm" --- way out there in the B747 cockpit. If you visually put the cockpit on centerline in a crab---you will be offset on the downwind side when you take the crab out to line up in close.
Actually, a typical Whale high X-wind approach & landing might be:
Crab --- for much of the approach....
to "WDTR" in-close....
to "finesse" the CL and the flare....
to immediate wings level touchdown....
to immediate aileron into the wind & steer with rudder/NWS....
to go to the hotel and have a Kirin or Sapporo and some gyoza....
Can't learn it in the books --- they don't address it -- it's self-taught -- believe it. You come to the airline with everyone figuring you KNOW how to fly. The only guys who get fired are the ones who prove otherwise ..... but it's still just an airplane.
And then there was the 60 knot quartering X-wind coming into Agana for the first arrival in two days on the backside of Typhoon Paka with a plane load of vacation-hungry Jap(anese) who really wanted to get there bad .... I lost a F/O on that one ......
HAL Pilot said:
Thanks, guys --- and here I thought only my Mom cared .... been to skool. Felt like I was in Gay Prison.
Oui, mon Ami. And it's tough to fly with a two-inch cigarette ash hanging in your mouth and not using deodorant for a couple of weeks, either. Just to set the "mood" ....
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