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Counseling

JackieFish

New Member
Evening all,

I’m currently in the process of applying for the summer boards (SNA, SNFO, and SWO), and I’m running into some fun MEPS issues. In particular is the issue of some counseling I undertook back in 2017. Nothing life shattering, I was just working my way through a bad breakup (the girl I thought I would marry had BPD and put me through the ringer), and I just wanted a neutral third party to talk it out with. Went for 7 months, got an unspecified anxiety diagnosis, no meds prescribed, no hospitalizations or anything like that. All the while I was working full time and in grad school doing quite well.

Flash forward to now. I’ve already submitted a letter from the counselor that cleared me, but MEPS shot back that they wanted the psychotherapy notes (at least that’s what the recruiter said). I’ve been able to talk the counselor into faxing them to MEPS, but she’s resistant to uploading them via DODSafe for whatever reason. They’ve been faxed once but “weren’t received,” so we’re trying again this week and have the direct desk line for the physician’s assistant that’ll be receiving them.

All of that is to ask: would a more thorough letter from the counselor suffice? I seem to be running into issues re: the notes and this is the final hurdle before I’m able to head down for my physical.
 

FormerRecruitingGuru

Making Recruiting Great Again
All of that is to ask: would a more thorough letter from the counselor suffice? I seem to be running into issues re: the notes and this is the final hurdle before I’m able to head down for my physical.

You can’t really “negotiate” with MEPS. If MEPS is asking to provide items A, B, C… you have to provide them just that.

Not sure if that office is close to you but if I were you just swing by and pick up all the printed documents in person. If that can’t work just explain to them you’re trying to join the military and they need XX things in order to join.
 

JackieFish

New Member
You can’t really “negotiate” with MEPS. If MEPS is asking to provide items A, B, C… you have to provide them just that.

Not sure if that office is close to you but if I were you just swing by and pick up all the printed documents in person. If that can’t work just explain to them you’re trying to join the military and they need XX things in order to join.
The doctor’s office is very close, and MEPS is maybe 1.5 hours away. I’d happily pick up the documents myself, but the problem is my former counselor, who seems incredibly reluctant to do anything other than fax them to MEPS. Apparently therapy notes fall under a different set of rules than regular medical documents.
 

FormerRecruitingGuru

Making Recruiting Great Again
The doctor’s office is very close, and MEPS is maybe 1.5 hours away. I’d happily pick up the documents myself, but the problem is my former counselor, who seems incredibly reluctant to do anything other than fax them to MEPS. Apparently therapy notes fall under a different set of rules than regular medical documents.
Have them fax it to a recruiter. Meps don’t take direct faxes
 

exNavyOffRec

Well-Known Member
The doctor’s office is very close, and MEPS is maybe 1.5 hours away. I’d happily pick up the documents myself, but the problem is my former counselor, who seems incredibly reluctant to do anything other than fax them to MEPS. Apparently therapy notes fall under a different set of rules than regular medical documents.
I encountered that before and it is a pain, it was such a pain that it made me wonder why anyone who had thoughts of joining the military would ever even talk to counselor and that isn't the right thought.

The MEPS docs should understand they are under a different set of rules and one thing that we did is had our liaison ask the MEPS doc specifically what he wanted and then the therapist was able to answer those specific questions. This may or may not be a good alternative for you as not all MEPS docs are made the same, but it is an option to consider if you need to.
 

number9

Well-Known Member
Contributor
The doctor’s office is very close, and MEPS is maybe 1.5 hours away. I’d happily pick up the documents myself, but the problem is my former counselor, who seems incredibly reluctant to do anything other than fax them to MEPS. Apparently therapy notes fall under a different set of rules than regular medical documents.
I was a DCO applicant, not an OCS applicant, but I provided very similar stuff to my recruiter via DoD SAFE and made it out with a positive finding in my favor.
 

Rtjenkins

ABE1 Jenkins
I encountered that before and it is a pain, it was such a pain that it made me wonder why anyone who had thoughts of joining the military would ever even talk to counselor and that isn't the right thought.

The MEPS docs should understand they are under a different set of rules and one thing that we did is had our liaison ask the MEPS doc specifically what he wanted and then the therapist was able to answer those specific questions. This may or may not be a good alternative for you as not all MEPS docs are made the same, but it is an option to consider if you need to.
I'm dealing with a couple applicants for counseling.. Its to the point where meps will see "clear to process" and n3m will end requesting additional docs added to what we submitted at meps
 
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