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The final days

Flash

Flash

SEVAL/ECMO
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sevenhelmet said:
Silly question for those that have been on AD and followed up with retiring from the reserves...

I have my DD-214. It only reflects my AD time (first 15 years-ish), and not my reserve time (final 5 years). I retired at the 20-year mark as of 1 July, and received an NOE and a SBP update form in the mail (took care of that immediately- nice to know my wife is taken care of if I die in my 50s like too many of my friends). I also have the original retirement approval letter in hand.

However, when I call my local base to get a retiree ID, they ask me to bring a copy of my DD-214 and "orders". Is there an update to my 214 that is supposed to be floating around somewhere? Does my retirement approval letter constitute "orders"? I submitted a NARA request and got my complete service record (in less than 24 hours!), and there's nothing new there.

Should I just go to the ID office and show them my 20y NOE, retirement approval letter, and DD-214? Am I missing something critical?

I feel really dumb asking about this, but even my NRC admin is short on answers. The administrative "square peg, round hole" situation with paperwork that is "not quite right" seems to apply to my entire military career... yet somehow I seem to have made it through the meat grinder. Just want to snag that retired ID. Thanks in advance, and make fun of me all you need to! :)
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Huh, not a silly question at all but when I got my retired ID I just turned in my 'active' one and got the retired one in return, I think it showed me as retired in the system. [EDIT: What @subreservist said about DEERS]
 
Griz882

Griz882

Frightening children with the Griz-O-Copter!
pilot
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Flash said:
Huh, not a silly question at all but when I got my retired ID I just turned in my 'active' one and got the retired one in return, I think it showed me as retired in the system. [EDIT: What @subreservist said about DEERS]
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Exactly. It will be in DEERS and they probably want your DD-214 as informational backup. I went into “grey area” retirement (reserves, before turning 60) and they required my -214 to get my pinky card that was replaced with a new “indef” card once I gently aged like a piece of beef.
 
snake020

snake020

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I went to DLI Monterey last month and all they needed were for the standard two forms of ID that you provide when getting a CAC issued. I had my letter on hand but don't recall them asking for it.
Seems PERS updated my retired status in DEERS within a day or so of my retirement date.
 
snake020

snake020

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sevenhelmet said:
Silly question for those that have been on AD and followed up with retiring from the reserves...

I have my DD-214. It only reflects my AD time (first 15 years-ish), and not my reserve time (final 5 years). I retired at the 20-year mark as of 1 July, and received an NOE and a SBP update form in the mail (took care of that immediately- nice to know my wife is taken care of if I die in my 50s like too many of my friends). I also have the original retirement approval letter in hand.

However, when I call my local base to get a retiree ID, they ask me to bring a copy of my DD-214 and "orders". Is there an update to my 214 that is supposed to be floating around somewhere? Does my retirement approval letter constitute "orders"? I submitted a NARA request and got my complete service record (in less than 24 hours!), and there's nothing new there.

Should I just go to the ID office and show them my 20y NOE, retirement approval letter, and DD-214? Am I missing something critical?

I feel really dumb asking about this, but even my NRC admin is short on answers. The administrative "square peg, round hole" situation with paperwork that is "not quite right" seems to apply to my entire military career... yet somehow I seem to have made it through the meat grinder. Just want to snag that retired ID. Thanks in advance, and make fun of me all you need to! :)
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As usual, NRC is a waste of space. If you never received your retirement letter, contact MNCC.
 
sevenhelmet

sevenhelmet

Quaint ideas from yesteryear
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snake020 said:
As usual, NRC is a waste of space. If you never received your retirement letter, contact MNCC.
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I got the letter, thanks- helpfully stamped "CUI" (thanks for overclassifying everything, military). I'm 95% sure I have what I need. I have faith the USAF ID folks at my local base will still find a way to make things difficult!

Local NRC isn't bad, they're just a small unit that has had a lot of AD turnover lately.

Thanks for all the responses, and not making me feel too stupid about this. :)
 
devilbones

devilbones

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sevenhelmet said:
I got the letter, thanks- helpfully stamped "CUI" (thanks for overclassifying everything, military). I'm 95% sure I have what I need. I have faith the USAF ID folks at my local base will still find a way to make things difficult!

Local NRC isn't bad, they're just a small unit that has had a lot of AD turnover lately.

Thanks for all the responses, and not making me feel too stupid about this. :)
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I don't know if you have this, it might be helpful:
 
MIDNJAC

MIDNJAC

is clara ship
pilot
Most of the time me and the NRC live separate lives. But what does make me very angry is when one of their minions turns off one of our guys AvIP randomly every couple years. It's like they only know their own people, and can't imagine there are the rest of us actually flying jets and not banking on some "flight hour gate" letter to justify their payment for (IMO) far too long. I'm currently about to lose my shit about this. "We need your gate letter". No thanks. Impossible to generate retroactively, nobody makes them for us at the gates because they aren't required/relevant, and it is NA for any of us anyway. So we won't be producing them for you. But you can check the flight schedule, or our DIFOPS orders that you have copies of, morons. Sorry for the non-sequitur.
 
PhrogPhlyer

PhrogPhlyer

Two heads are better than one.
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None
Until reading this thread I've never heard of NRC, CMT, or CBT.
It's been ten years since I retired at 60.
Would someone just define the acronyms please?
 
snake020

snake020

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PhrogPhlyer said:
Until reading this thread I've never heard of NRC, CMT, or CBT.
It's been ten years since I retired at 60.
Would someone just define the acronyms please?
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NRC = Navy Reserve Center. The last chief of Navy Reserve was nostalgic and renamed NOSC to NRC and FTS to TAR (Training and Administration of the Reserve) which is what the names originally were many years ago because his only contribution in the role was nostalgia.
CBT = computer based training. Basically NKO/eLearning.
CMT = common military training. Navy's new shiny term which replaced GMT in FY25.
 
Flash

Flash

SEVAL/ECMO
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devilbones said:
Its ok, I am hosting the CMT/CBT sessions for the gray area retirees. We are going to muster at Waffle House and get all the in person knocked out too.
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Muster is 0215...ish, and we're going to knock out some folks after knocking out the required items.

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