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What's your favorite micro brew

MIDNJAC

is clara ship
pilot
Class it up too much and you'll eliminate a lot of your potential patrons. Hot Tuna is an institution for a reason. You can vomit on the bar and not expect to be 86'd for more than a couple weeks. :D

Well if he wants to open up a real brewery, he should do it in the PNW, although "Battle Phrog" might turn away some in the Alberta types of places.
 

phrogpilot73

Well-Known Member
Well if he wants to open up a real brewery, he should do it in the PNW, although "Battle Phrog" might turn away some in the Alberta types of places.
Truth be told, I've done a lot of research on the matter. Based on the state's laws, I've come up with that the best places to open a brewpub are:

1. Oregon
2. North Carolina
3. Florida
4. Virginia

And that's in order. Virginia was actually much lower until the current governor signed a host of laws... I could see a Battle Phrog Brewery being successful in North Carolina (in Jacksonville/Havelock/New Bern), P-Cola, and here in Chicks Beach. Highest grossing would likely be P-Cola.
 

scoober78

(HCDAW)
pilot
Contributor
Pensacola business plan might need to take a hard look at World of Beers, which I guess is a fairly recent addition to Palafox. Pretty stupendous beer selection, great space and a decent band on the weekends...would probably eat in to the bottom line quite a bit.
 

Brett327

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Truth be told, I've done a lot of research on the matter. Based on the state's laws, I've come up with that the best places to open a brewpub are:

1. Oregon
2. North Carolina
3. Florida
4. Virginia

And that's in order. Virginia was actually much lower until the current governor signed a host of laws... I could see a Battle Phrog Brewery being successful in North Carolina (in Jacksonville/Havelock/New Bern), P-Cola, and here in Chicks Beach. Highest grossing would likely be P-Cola.
Portland is alleged to have more brew pubs per capita than any major city in the US. I've heard the same thing quoted about its strip clubs.
 

Pags

N/A
pilot
There's a new brewery in Norfolk that has some pretty good brews, and they've been showing up in the local Harris Teeter and Food Lion. I'm partial to their Great Dismal Black IPA.

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The guy started as a homebrewer, and shops at the same homebrew store in Norfolk that I do.
When I moved to Norfolk in 06 I was amazed that they didn't have a local brewery. I'm glad to see that O'Connor stepped up to fill the niche, plus it's great to see that they have a lot of local support.

My buddy was nice enough to bootleg me some Norfolk Canyon a few months ago when I was still in MD.

So, I'm aware of some Japanese "microbrews", but where the heck do I find them out in town?
 

phrogpilot73

Well-Known Member
Pensacola business plan might need to take a hard look at World of Beers, which I guess is a fairly recent addition to Palafox. Pretty stupendous beer selection, great space and a decent band on the weekends...would probably eat in to the bottom line quite a bit.
My final project for Culinary School involved a business plan for Battle Phrog Brewery in P-Cola. The difference between my plan and the direct competitors (Hopjacks & World of Beers) is the fact that it will be a brew pub, versus a place with a lot of beer. That and the menu (New Southern) is also very different. People would go to World of Beers/Hopjacks/Battle Phrog Brewery for different reasons. Now if a brew pub were to open up (part of the reason I wasn't planning on doing it near McGuires) that would be a different story.
 

Brett327

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What's the long term profit difference these days between a straightforward bar and a restaurant w/ a bar?
 

phrogpilot73

Well-Known Member
What's the long term profit difference these days between a straightforward bar and a restaurant w/ a bar?
Based on what they told us in Culinary School (and all my instructors were either Certified Executive Chefs, former Chef/Owners, or Restaurateurs) a bar's profit margin is usually 6-8%, a restaurant makes 8-12% and upscale restaurants are making somewhere around 15%.

Even though the opportunity for the most profit is usually from your bar sales in a restaurant - it's also historically where the most employee theft occurs.
 

Recovering LSO

Suck Less
pilot
Contributor
Interesting... Had a Lagunita on tap in Gaslamp tonight. Not good. I LOVE bottled Lagunita - tap, not so good tonight. Any ideas? Dirty taps? Poorly cared for kegs?
 

squorch2

he will die without safety brief
pilot
Interesting... Had a Lagunita on tap in Gaslamp tonight. Not good. I LOVE bottled Lagunita - tap, not so good tonight. Any ideas? Dirty taps? Poorly cared for kegs?
Dirty hoses will make your beer shit and are difficult to clean if not done regularly. Glass is non-reactive with organic compounds... you do the math.
 

phrogpilot73

Well-Known Member
Dirty hoses will make your beer shit and are difficult to clean if not done regularly. Glass is non-reactive with organic compounds... you do the math.
Truth. Minus the fact that it's easy to clean lines, even if you haven't done it regularly. You just have to do it right.
 

roflsaurus

"Jet" Pilot
pilot
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You Oregon gentleman know what I'm talkin about.

Also, now that I've left Whidbey Island behind me, I find myself really missing the beer at Flyers and that brewpub in Anacortes. I think it was called Rockfish.
 

Brett327

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Rockfish/Paul Wassik beers are awesome, and he makes one of the best IPAs I've ever had. Flyers=horrible TED bar with mediocre beer and horrible food. Par for the course in OH. YMMV. :)
 
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