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Valid Points or Just an Angry Vet?

Discussion in 'War Zone' started by Charles Edward, Apr 21, 2017 at 4:34 AM.

  1. Charles Edward

    Charles Edward Member

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    It appears that this West Point grad has some highly critical views of the many aspects of the military.

    Is there truth to his assertions that much of special forces training is simply masochistic, hazing that really has little or nothing to do with gaining necessary military skills?

    https://johntreed.com/blogs/john-t-...seals-recently-dying-in-or-after-flunking-out

    https://www.johntreed.com/blogs/joh...17715203-seal-hype-now-even-attacked-by-seals
     
  2. picklesuit

    picklesuit Shit, I'm lost again... Contributor None

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    He sounds like an idiot to me.
    Pickle
     
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  3. insanebikerboy

    insanebikerboy Internet killed the television star Contributor None

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    A little research and Mr. Reed seems to have a chip on his shoulder towards all types of special forces, and especially hard up for SEALs. He even admits to earning his Ranger tab but never actually serving in the 75th Ranger Regiment. Earning the tab is no easy feat but pilots, tankers, Marines, etc, have earned the tab. Wearing the tab isn't equivalent to being in actual, designated SOF and serving in the 75th Ranger regiment.

    Can SOF units have egos? Sure, but a lot of non SOF units/groups do as well. IYAOYAS comes to mind.

    He honestly comes across as a bitter old man who probably wanted to be in a SOF unit but never made it.
     
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  4. nittany03

    nittany03 FUBIJAR Super Moderator None Contributor None

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    Yeah, Ranger school != RASP. One gets someone the tab, the other gets them in the Regiment.
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  5. Flash

    Flash SEVAL/ECMO Super Moderator None Contributor

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    Mr. Reed is 'that guy'. I spent way too much time reading his rants yesterday and he isn't just critical of SOF but highly critical of almost every aspect of the military, government, and anything else except making money the way he did and anything contrary to his theories on life. He actually doesn't seem bitter or jealous at all about not being a SOF guy or serving in combat arms and is not shy talking about not fitting in to the Army mold. He is explicit about how he chose the Signal Corps because of the locations where he would be stationed so he could get started investing in real estate in addition to being one of the lower risk assignments he could get. He still went to Vietnam but was in a support role and doesn't talk up his 'combat' time like others are apt to, though he does make sure you know he is a Ranger School grad.

    He has some valid points and is not stupid but it gets lost in his tedious and skewed rants about how screwed up the Army, the military, military personnel, the government and even the country are (according to him we should have gone bankrupt by now). He doesn't seem to measure success in any way but monetarily so it doesn't surprise me that someone with that basic valuation of success didn't do very well in the military and has an axe to grind against it.

    Or, in other words:

     
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  6. Pags

    Pags Well-Known Member None

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    The military isn't for everybody. Some people don't find this out until after they join and then they find out that the day to day reality of life in the military doesn't jive with what they thought they were going to be doing. Sometimes this results in bitter folks who can't let go of the fact that the military didn't meet their expectations. Such is life.
     
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  7. RUFiO181

    RUFiO181 Making Recruiting Great Again

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    What did your recruiter say when you asked him/her about this??? :mad:
     
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  8. robav8r

    robav8r I have a use for you ... None Contributor

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    A real "Mission & Country" first kind of guy . . . .
     
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  9. wink

    wink VS NFO. Blue and Gold Off. Former Recruiter. Super Moderator None Contributor

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    Reed went to West Point. He had to decided on the military, effectively min 8-9 years total academy and active duty combined, when he was 18 years old. What did he know about what he was getting into? Back then, there was no internet, or myriad of programs on cable, Netflixs, etc to help inform. He made a mistake. He was never suited for the Army. Who knows what he really wanted out of the deal. Now he justifies his choices by pulling down others who choose different then he did. He is no expert on special forces training or the military in general.
     
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  10. Charles Edward

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    I thought Academy and ROTC grads had to choose the Combat Arms (or Unrestricted Line). How did this guy get into the Signal Corps after graduation anyhow?

    Perhaps he had a medical condition that disqualified him from a Combat Arms branch?
     
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    Flash SEVAL/ECMO Super Moderator None Contributor

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    Rules change, this guy graduated almost 50 years ago. For a few years, until '95, Navy ROTC folks (and I think USNA too) could choose RL when they commissioned.
     
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    Flash SEVAL/ECMO Super Moderator None Contributor

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    After reading way too much of the guy's screed I thought this encapsulates what he thinks of folks who have spent a career in the military:

    To state it narratively, career military people are, in many ways, childlike in their naiveté, ignorance, and ineptitude in realms that are normal everyday activities to their civilian peers. I’m talking about such things as job interviews, self-employment, picking pre-college schools for children, home remodeling, clothing, city life, investments, chatting with friends about opinions and politics, career variety, career stability, sinking deep roots into a community, planting a tree and watching it grow, head hunters, buying insurance, unions, utilities, and so on. Career military people are parochial, narrow, inexperienced, insular, misinformed about life beyond the post gate.
     
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  13. Charles Edward

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    Good points!
     
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    NavyOffRec Well-Known Member

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    I think he came home early and found a SEAL team making a video with his wife, the recent guy can't be the first right?
     
  15. Charles Edward

    Charles Edward Member

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    LOL!

    Well, Mr. Reed was referenced by the chap in the blog below. Is the consensus is that he too a frustrated vet who apparently did not get what he had hoped for from his time in uniform?

    http://dave.purdone.com/2009/12/should-you-join-the-nuclear-navy-nupoc/
     

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