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Brett327

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People have been migrating north from CA for decades. There was a great series of early 80s beer commericals from the Oregon brewery Blitz-Weinhard that lampooned CA beer (and Californians) that attempted to flow north. Bottom line, the CA exodus, in one fashion or another, has been going on for a long long time, and certainly preceeds any of our contemporary political dysfunction. I'd be interested to see data on businesses and individuals who leave CA for various reasons.

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I've read a lot of people from California have been moving into Texas because of the high cost of living in California. They then begin voting for the very same types of politicians that messed up the state that they came from. They have been doing this to Colorado and Nevada too.
Reading about it doesn't do it justice. Seeing and experiencing it happen first-hand is truly a sight to behold. They're going to Austin/Houston, Denver, Phoenix, PNW, and several other places en masse, especially lots of yo-pros. The joke a friend told me a while back is if we moved to Washington state or AZ, we'd be minor celebrities with how many friends and colleagues we got there these days.

There was a great series of early 80s beer commericals from the Oregon brewery Blitz-Weinhard that lampooned CA beer (and Californians)
Most of the top California breweries didn't even exist in the early 80s. The times have certainly changed since then, considering San Diego's beer and to a lesser degree San Francisco's quickly caught up and have arguably surpassed them. Living in Oregon for some time introduced me to high-quality craft beer, but having had many opportunities to taste and savor the sweet nectar from San Diego is an experience on another level. Just one of a plethora of reasons that San Diego is named America's Finest City.
 

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Most of the top California breweries didn't even exist in the early 80s. The times have certainly changed since then, considering San Diego's beer and to a lesser degree San Francisco's quickly caught up and have arguably surpassed them. Living in Oregon for some time introduced me to high-quality craft beer, but having had many opportunities to taste and savor the sweet nectar from San Diego is an experience on another level. Just one of a plethora of reasons that San Diego is named America's Finest City.
Yes, there's good beer in many places, but that isn't the point.
 

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Reading about it doesn't do it justice. Seeing and experiencing it happen first-hand is truly a sight to behold. They're going to Austin/Houston, Denver, Phoenix, PNW, and several other places en masse, especially lots of yo-pros. The joke a friend told me a while back is if we moved to Washington state or AZ, we'd be minor celebrities with how many friends and colleagues we got there these days.



Most of the top California breweries didn't even exist in the early 80s. The times have certainly changed since then, considering San Diego's beer and to a lesser degree San Francisco's quickly caught up and have arguably surpassed them. Living in Oregon for some time introduced me to high-quality craft beer, but having had many opportunities to taste and savor the sweet nectar from San Diego is an experience on another level. Just one of a plethora of reasons that San Diego is named America's Finest City.
San Diego beers are good but expendable. More highly specialized micro brews come from other areas.
 

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As of yesterday, there were at least 1000 illegals from the caravan at the Tijuana border staring across at our Border Patrol.

But you might have missed it because Fake News CNN and MSNBC were ignoring it like they ignore all things that don't fit make their libtard agendas look good. Instead of reporting actual news, they were finding something else to bash on Trump.
 

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Try to get a manual labor job for anything resembling minimum wage in those areas.
Can you point me to the non-immigrant looking for / willing to take that manual labor job in the San Joaquin Valley? Also, historical unemployment rate for San Joaquin Valley from Federal Reserve Economic Research division, and Fresno Bee. But you know, I get, fake news!!!

There are quite a lot of people trying to get into this country, but this was never a crisis. That much of it was fabricated for political ends. Remember that 15,000 number? Yesterday Deputy Defense Sec Patrick Shanahan announced the total is now 5,900 and not expected to rise. The real problem with this kind of side-show is it, once again, gets in the way of a substantive discussion of effective (and dare I say bipartisan) legislation for immigration reform.

Remember when Clinton was accused of trying to distract from Lewinsky scandal by sending some TLAM into Afghanistan in an effort (weak as it may have been) to kill bin Laden. Now imagine if he'd try to influence an election - can you imagine the outrage....
 
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