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picklesuit

Shit, I'm lost again...
pilot
Contributor
Seriously, does it matter what political ideology someone is when it comes to sexual assault? Who gives a fuck if they’re left or right, they’re a fucking dirtbag. How is this even a fucking discussion? “Oh the other side did this so they’re worse than us.” Fuck you. There’s no fucking excuse for any of it, if someone does it, fry them or (as my dad likes to say) hang them from their balls. This obtuse defense of a creepy fuck is irritating, just because a Dem may win. I get it, we need to verify accusations so we don’t get another Duke Lacrosse situation, but for fucks sake let’s put the politics aside for this kind of stuff.
Certainly illustrates the diversity of the word...
 

Treetop Flyer

Well-Known Member
pilot
I'm sure it may have been common in some places for the district attorney to sign your high school yearbook,"Love," but where I come from, that's a little weird.
Did he actually sign it though? Turns out Moore presided over this accuser's divorce. Here is his stamped signature from the court documents the accuser would have received.

This was stamped and initialed by his assistant, whose initials are D.A.

It did seem strange to sign a 16 year old's yearbook "love" and it also seemed strange to sign it with your job title.

An interesting coincidence.
 

phrogdriver

More humble than you would understand
pilot
Super Moderator
Yeah, I'm sure it's all a huge conspiracy. All SIX accusers collaborated simultaneously. The 30+ corroborating witnesses are all lying. The employees of the mall he was banned from are lying.

And he can't even deny that as a man in his thirties, he dated teenagers.

I'm sure there's nothing untoward at all with Judge Moore.

At least his pedophilia distracted from his charity scam. https://www.washingtonpost.com/inve...bdd1236be5d_story.html?utm_term=.c8004d0de907
 

Flash

SEVAL/ECMO
None
Super Moderator
Contributor
Did he actually sign it thoug? It did seem strange to sign a 16 year old's yearbook "love" and it also seemed strange to sign it with your job title.

An interesting coincidence.
It's also interesting coincidence that three more women have now come forward to claim Moore either dated them when they were teenagers or harassed them. Can they all be lying? Is it all a C..O..N......spiracy??!!!!

As has been pointed out here before Moore is a moron even without the pile of accusations of creepy or harassing behavior, a bigot who seems to believe that he can ignore the rule of law unless it it his versions of God's law and not those folks who believe in other versions or none at all among many other idiocies.

Probably the worst case scenario for the Republicans now is that he wins, if he does he'll be a millstone around the neck of every Republican and they will have to answer for every idiotic and outlandish statement he makes. If history is any guide he will make plenty of them and be a constant gift to the loyal opposition as long as he is in office.
 

nittany03

FUBIJAR
pilot
None
Super Moderator
Contributor
Probably the worst case scenario for the Republicans now is that he wins, if he does he'll be a millstone around the neck of every Republican and they will have to answer for every idiotic and outlandish statement he makes. If history is any guide he will make plenty of them and be a constant gift to the loyal opposition as long as he is in office.
Pretty sure McConnell & Co's plan is to seat him if he wins, and then immediately vote to boot him. But I wouldn't put it past everyone involved to turn even that into a complete circus the way things are going these days.
 

Treetop Flyer

Well-Known Member
pilot
Pretty sure McConnell & Co's plan is to seat him if he wins, and then immediately vote to boot him. But I wouldn't put it past everyone involved to turn even that into a complete circus the way things are going these days.
Yeah I'd say that's the best case for the republicans. By the way, I never said it was a conspiracy or that he's not probably guilty, despite the the posters that immediately started taking about conspiracies.
 

jtmedli

Well-Known Member
pilot
“Oh the other side did this so they’re worse than us.” Fuck you. There’s no fucking excuse for any of it, if someone does it, fry them or (as my dad likes to say) hang them from their balls. This obtuse defense of a creepy fuck is irritating...
That is not what I said. Nor did I defend Moore's behavior. My post was about Radical Dude being a condescending prick towards an entire state because they're Republicans that he clearly believes are beneath him. He wasn't on here making any comments or running his trap about the entire city of Seattle for letting a known pederast remain in office now was he? Nope. He wasn't.

@jtmedli as a reminder, it is possible for more than one thing or person to be wrong at once.
My response was directed towards the raging hypocrisy and condescending attitude of Radical Dude. It had nothing to do with any debate over right vs wrong.

Do you think Roy Moore should be elected to the Senate? Would you vote for him? Genuinely curious.
Based upon what I know about him, I would not. But I'm not a citizen of AL and my post had nothing to do with defending Moore or voting for him. It had 100% to do with your shitty, condescending attitude about a bunch of people that you clearly believe are beneath your own personal pedigree. Then again, it wouldn't be your first post on AW to demonstrate the nature of your superiority complex.
 

Flash

SEVAL/ECMO
None
Super Moderator
Contributor
Pretty sure McConnell & Co's plan is to seat him if he wins, and then immediately vote to boot him. But I wouldn't put it past everyone involved to turn even that into a complete circus the way things are going these days.
I think it might be harder to eject him than many think, after all he has not been convicted of a crime and he continues to deny the accusations. It'll be interesting no doubt if it comes to that.
 

nittany03

FUBIJAR
pilot
None
Super Moderator
Contributor
I think it might be harder to eject him than many think, after all he has not been convicted of a crime and he continues to deny the accusations. It'll be interesting no doubt if it comes to that.
Based on what I've read, they basically don't need any more of a reason than he's already given, but it has to be a 2/3 vote. Obviously, all the Dems would be on board, but they'd need enough GOP support to get rid of him. Then Alabama would get to have yet another special election.

The real irony is that, from the GOP's perspective, the best result would be to let him win. Then they could boot him out and still ensure another GOP Senator fills the slot. All this write-in shit will just split the vote and risk handing the seat to the Dems. Yet not doing it makes it look like they're condoning everything he did. Like you said in the other thread, "yay, politics!"
 

Flash

SEVAL/ECMO
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Super Moderator
Contributor
...Obviously, all the Dems would be on board...
Would they all be on board though? To be really mean a few could say to let the Republicans sleep in the bed of their own making (sort of). I don't think it is out of the realm of possibility.

The real irony is that, from the GOP's perspective, the best result would be to let him win. Then they could boot him out and still ensure another GOP Senator fills the slot. All this write-in shit will just split the vote and risk handing the seat to the Dems. Yet not doing it makes it look like they're condoning everything he did. Like you said in the other thread, "yay, politics!"
Could they prevent Moore from running again though? I don't know the answer to that. Notably, the Alabama Republican party hasn't withdrawn their support for him yet.

It is unprecedented in modern times, the last time a Senator was successfully expelled was during the Civil War, so a lot of the assumptions might not pan out. On a somewhat related note, the Democrats dodged at least one fiasco today with a hung jury in Senator Menedez's corruption trial but now have another with Senator Franken.

May we live in interesting times....
 

Hotdogs

Leeroy Jenkins
pilot
It had 100% to do with your shitty, condescending attitude about a bunch of people that you clearly believe are beneath your own personal pedigree.
This reason right here is why I can still see him winning. Another giant F you to the liberal media and Democrats like RadicalDude who condescend to the rest of the nation. Regardless of him being guilty of it or not. That’s the state of politics right now. Nobody believes any talking head or politician on TV these days trying to save their bacon by disowning him.
 

RadicalDude

Social Justice Warlord
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Contributor
That is not what I said. Nor did [...]My post was about Radical Dude being a condescending prick towards an entire state because they're Republicans that he clearly believes are beneath him. [...] My response was directed towards the raging hypocrisy and condescending attitude of Radical Dude. It had nothing to do with any debate over right vs wrong.[...]Then again, it wouldn't be your first post on AW to demonstrate the nature of your superiority complex.
I may be a dick on here sometimes, but at least I'm not calling my coworkers and friends "cucks" all day on The_Donald.

And at least I've never stooped so low as to say this about a war hero (a man myself, and many others on this site deeply respect despite his politics):
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Seems like you have quite a little post history over there.

It's apparent you think Roy Moore's accusers are frauds. So be it. No one is making you believe it.

I maintain my position that the people of Alabama will vote for a known creeper and child-groper just to stick it to the man--that was my entire point, @Hotdogs congrats on getting it.

We live in hell world... Moore by +2... easy.