so is erdogan the more islamist type..you know, sharia law and all that, and the military is more secular? just trying to get all the players in the right slots.
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Turkey Coup
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so is erdogan the more islamist type..you know, sharia law and all that, and the military is more secular? just trying to get all the players in the right slots.
that pretty much answers it....they will be going more iran style, less western. what a mess. their military will be weakened. more crazy radicals....more polarization too.
bummer, too bad they couldnt pull off the coup...
How does one start a coup without a legit winning strategy? I mean, didn't a certain HBO show teach everyone that when you play the game of thrones you either win or die? How does the Turkish military not win this one? *sigh* I'll be spending some time in the vault doing some research... blah...
Hrm. Turns out that there was only a fraction of the military in on everything. So much for the operational factor of force . . .
"Most importantly they failed to capture Erdogan, who was vacationing at a Marble Lake resort. Capturing the Turkish leader was possibly the first thing they should have done."
France
Apparently Greece
We'll see what sort of kangaroo court comes out - similar issues a few years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sledgehammer_(coup_plan)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sledgehammer_(coup_plan)
I find this whole thing fascinating. I'm not a tinfoil hat kinda guy, but this seems a little too convenient. The power consolidation is happening:
2700+ Judges removed
Somewhat related, power cut from Incirlik AB: http://abcn.ws/29Zb2nR
2700+ Judges removed
Somewhat related, power cut from Incirlik AB: http://abcn.ws/29Zb2nR
I am not either but with Erdogan and Turkey not much would surprise me. Look for Erdogan to consolidate power even more than he has before now, 'never let a good crises go to waste'.
More news from Turkey - with Erdogan pushing for a vote on increasing presidential powers. Interestingly, this is just in time for the Dutch elections in 3 days - how much it helps Geert Wilders and the Dutch Freedom Party remains to be seen.
A protester on Sunday took down the Dutch flag flying over the consulate in Istanbul and replaced it with a Turkish flag, Agence France-Presse said, citing its reporter at the scene. A Turkish official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, disputed the claim, saying the flag was replaced by someone from inside the consulate. Footage of the incident showed a man on the roof shouting "Allahu Akbar" as the flag was replaced. His identity was unclear.
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/...nds-won-t-be-blackmailed-by-turkish-officials
There is more than a month to go before a referendum in April that will allow Turks to vote on a series of constitutional amendments that could give Turkey’s dominating leader, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, vast new powers and allow him to remain in office for more than a decade.
After more than 1 million asylum seekers arrived in Germany over the past two years — the majority of them Syrians, Iraqis and Afghans fleeing war, and traveling via Turkey — a European Union deal with Ankara to stem the flow of migrants has helped close down the route most of them used to arrive. Erdogan has often threatened to open the floodgates again — something that could be politically devastating for Merkel, now locked in her own unexpectedly tight race for reelection.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...24ccab94435_story.html?utm_term=.b9fe0f32443b
A protester on Sunday took down the Dutch flag flying over the consulate in Istanbul and replaced it with a Turkish flag, Agence France-Presse said, citing its reporter at the scene. A Turkish official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, disputed the claim, saying the flag was replaced by someone from inside the consulate. Footage of the incident showed a man on the roof shouting "Allahu Akbar" as the flag was replaced. His identity was unclear.
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/...nds-won-t-be-blackmailed-by-turkish-officials
There is more than a month to go before a referendum in April that will allow Turks to vote on a series of constitutional amendments that could give Turkey’s dominating leader, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, vast new powers and allow him to remain in office for more than a decade.
After more than 1 million asylum seekers arrived in Germany over the past two years — the majority of them Syrians, Iraqis and Afghans fleeing war, and traveling via Turkey — a European Union deal with Ankara to stem the flow of migrants has helped close down the route most of them used to arrive. Erdogan has often threatened to open the floodgates again — something that could be politically devastating for Merkel, now locked in her own unexpectedly tight race for reelection.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...24ccab94435_story.html?utm_term=.b9fe0f32443b
Erdogan is well on the way to overplaying his hand...
From Foreign Policy
ARGUMENT
Turkey Is a Dictatorship Masquerading as a NATO Democracy
Recep Erdogan's slow-motion plan to abandon democracy — and buy the West's silence — is almost complete.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/03/29/the-dictatorship-in-natos-clubhouse-erdogan-kurds-turkey/
Referendum vote on 16 April - The proposed changes are projected to come into effect in 2019 and Erdoğan could, therefore, rule Turkey until 2029.
http://www.politico.eu/article/turkey-referendum-recep-tayyip-erdogan-power-grab-constitution/
ARGUMENT
Turkey Is a Dictatorship Masquerading as a NATO Democracy
Recep Erdogan's slow-motion plan to abandon democracy — and buy the West's silence — is almost complete.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/03/29/the-dictatorship-in-natos-clubhouse-erdogan-kurds-turkey/
Referendum vote on 16 April - The proposed changes are projected to come into effect in 2019 and Erdoğan could, therefore, rule Turkey until 2029.
http://www.politico.eu/article/turkey-referendum-recep-tayyip-erdogan-power-grab-constitution/
It has been like that since long before Erdogan. Just because the Turks grant a fellow NATO member basing rights doesn't mean they surrender their sovereignty. We would do the same if the situation were reversed.