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USN The Slow Death Of The Carrier Air Wing - Or a CSAR Threadjack

RobLyman

- hawk Pilot
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Yeah, watched a few seconds of it. Seemed like a preflight. Only shocking part was that there were no cranials or float coats...
We get reminded about the cranials part every time we stage out of Oceana for DLQs. We avoid Chambers Field (NGU) like the plague when we're up there.
 

LAMPS Ninja

I love LAMPS?
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Yeah, watched a few seconds of it. Seemed like a preflight. Only shocking part was that there were no cranials or float coats...

… or pilots (didn’t watch the entire video, but assuming). They may not have cranial, but I bet they each have a reflective belt on them. That said, these guys are more thorough than any Navy preflight I’ve ever seen.
 

hscs

Registered User
pilot
… or pilots (didn’t watch the entire video, but assuming). They may not have cranial, but I bet they each have a reflective belt on them. That said, these guys are more thorough than any Navy preflight I’ve ever seen.
Probably because the crew chief (likely full system cdqar) is doing the preflight.

USAF mx is also not done by the squadron flying the a/c - a mx squadron provides a/c to the flying squadron.
 

Uncle Fester

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IKE just reveived their UAWC (Unmanned Aviation Warfare Center) in preps for incorporating the MQ-25.

Is this the beginning of the end manned manned carrier aviation? Another nail in the coffin?

I really really doubt it. I’ve got a crisp $5 bill that says years from now, when everyone now wearing wings is planted in Arlington, there will still be lots of manned aircraft at the Boat. For a lot of reasons; not least that we’ve never used a UAS/RPA force in anger against a peer adversary with their ECM shit in one sock. And there are plenty of missions for which Unmanned is simply not the best solution.

I was plenty skeptical about Stingray, but the program office is fighting hard against mission or requirements creep, and UCAS figured out a lot of the hard parts of FW UAS at sea, though obviously there will be a lot of teething pain when it comes to full CVW integration. But I think it’s actually do-able.
 

ChuckMK23

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I really really doubt it. I’ve got a crisp $5 bill that says years from now, when everyone now wearing wings is planted in Arlington, there will still be lots of manned aircraft at the Boat. For a lot of reasons; not least that we’ve never used a UAS/RPA force in anger against a peer adversary with their ECM shit in one sock. And there are plenty of missions for which Unmanned is simply not the best solution.

I was plenty skeptical about Stingray, but the program office is fighting hard against mission or requirements creep, and UCAS figured out a lot of the hard parts of FW UAS at sea, though obviously there will be a lot of teething pain when it comes to full CVW integration. But I think it’s actually do-able.
Who will “fly” the MQ-25?
 

ea6bflyr

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I really really doubt it. I’ve got a crisp $5 bill that says years from now, when everyone now wearing wings is planted in Arlington, there will still be lots of manned aircraft at the Boat. For a lot of reasons; not least that we’ve never used a UAS/RPA force in anger against a peer adversary with their ECM shit in one sock. And there are plenty of missions for which Unmanned is simply not the best solution.

I was plenty skeptical about Stingray, but the program office is fighting hard against mission or requirements creep, and UCAS figured out a lot of the hard parts of FW UAS at sea, though obviously there will be a lot of teething pain when it comes to full CVW integration. But I think it’s actually do-able.
Hmmm....your argument is not that convincving. Look at the AF model with currently more UAV pilots than Fighter Pilots. Is this the Navy's future?
 

Uncle Fester

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Who will “fly” the MQ-25?

No definitive plans yet, that I’m aware of. Last I heard it’ll belong to ACCLW, but whether it’ll be a tour option for E-2 guys (like VUP for VP now) or something else, I don’t think has been decided.

Personally I think the best plan would be to stand up a VUK (or whatever) squadron for each coast, VRC-style dets to each CAG, and have it be a disassoc/OP-T tour for for VAW, but nobody asked me.

Also, I’m proof that the lowest common denominator NFO can be an AVO, so I think it should be an option for two-anchor types. You need aviation knowledge, but not pilot stick/rudder skills.
 

Pags

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Who will “fly” the MQ-25?
Probably depends on how it will be "flown." As fester has mentioned some unmanned aircraft are RPAs and some are UAVs. MQ-8 is autonomous; the operator tells it where to go and the robot figures out how to get there.
 

jmcquate

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F-35s and Rhinos will be around for a while..........at least till all of you are telling sea stories to your grand kids.
 
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