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The interesting world of VQ

Flash

SEVAL/ECMO
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Lets just say that the last 3 times I've been out to Fallon, and the multiple threat capes and lims briefs I've been through... repeatedly bring up what was lost from that landing. I've got nothing against the dude personally, and that's all I'll say.

I am fully aware what was lost in that landing, not only did I have very recent experience in the squadron but also got to read the full after-action report on the incident and talk to the guy who briefed the JCS on it.

And again, I can say with full confidence that NOTHING on that plane was worth anyone's life. Really nothing more or less to it.
 

Sky-Pig

Retired Cryptologic Warfare / Naval Flight Officer
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Rota...sometime in the 60s

I ran across this photo somewhere...overhead shot of NS Rota, probably in the mid-60s.

I see at least 5 EA-3Bs, 2 EC-121Ms, 5-6 P-2Vs, 2 C-130s, and 2 possible RD-4/DC-3s on the ramp.

The hanger in the center of the photo is the one VQ-2 occupied for about forever and day (1960-2005).

I guarantee someone on the deck is drinking a cafe con leche, too.
 

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Sky-Pig

Retired Cryptologic Warfare / Naval Flight Officer
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EP-3E's!

3 more photos that I like...
 

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Malo83

Keep the Faith
^ Great stuff -- now, does this ramp look "familiar" ... ?? :)

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Dang A4's your making my eyes misty :( can remember my time on Guam, busted many a knuckle on those Whales, spent time with VQ-1 72-75, still remember the Fruit bat in the cage in the Hanger. Dets to Cubi were awesome, also made the Det to Osan,Korea with the Photo RA-3Bs, Atsugi, USS Ranger, thanks for posting those Whale pics,"The wreckless abandon of Youth,to be young again" another round of San Miguels :icon_zbee
 

A4sForever

BTDT OLD GUY
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Dang A4's your making my eyes misty :( can remember my time on Guam, busted many a knuckle on those Whales, spent time with VQ-1 72-75... Dets to Cubi were awesome ..... "The wreckless abandon of Youth,to be young again" another round of San Miguels :icon_zbee
Then we were there :icon_zbee at the same time or a least overlapped ... it was a great time to be alive, for sure ... :)
 

scoober78

(HCDAW)
pilot
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I'm not VQ...but I do know that the ditch characteristics of the EP-3 are decidedly different from a non-queer P-3.


Actually, to be precise...nobody knows what the ditch characteristics of the EP are....because nobody has ditched one. There is alot of scpeculation both ways (no big deal or airplane breaks in half)...yet another reason not to armchair quarterback the decisions made by PR-32.
 

scoolbubba

Brett327 gargles ballsacks
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Damn, I never realized how close that radome dealie thingamajig was to the ground.

not much room for a hard landing? thanks for the pics sky-pig.
 

armada1651

Hey intern, get me a Campari!
pilot
Damn, I never realized how close that radome dealie thingamajig was to the ground.

not much room for a hard landing?

I'm thinking if you're hitting the ground hard enough to compress your nose gear that much, you probably have bigger concerns than scraping up your top-secrety-pod-thingamajigs.
 

scoolbubba

Brett327 gargles ballsacks
pilot
Contributor
I'm thinking if you're hitting the ground hard enough to compress your nose gear that much, you probably have bigger concerns than scraping up your top-secrety-pod-thingamajigs.

obviously, you've never sat in the backseat on one of my early contact landings in primary.

Me: Goddammit.
IP: He had nothing to do with that work of art. Gravity is still working, you know. You don't have to make them stick.
 

wink

War Hoover NFO.
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Not so fond memories: I flew on the mission that located the loan survivor of Deep Sea 005, an EA-3, after it broke up in flight. CVW 2, USS Ranger, Westpac 1982, I think. We were in the normal wing CVIC brief when it was interrupted by CAG. Deep Sea 005 was way over due. All missions were scrubbed and we all went out on SAR. After getting our sectors assigned CAG flew off the TV and busted in our RR a minute later. CAG Baird, a VS guy, took the copilot's seat in my aircraft. Our wingman on the adjacent sector first got contact with the survivor, an AT3, on the PRC90. We flew over and CAG took On Scene Commander. CAG was real good with the kid, reassuring, positive. He was in his raft hundreds of miles form the ship. We never got a good eye on him due to the sea state, but he gave us a good smoke. A P-3 came along and predictably, was useless. Dropped a raft or some survival thing half a mile down current from the kid. Broke the kid's heart. The SH-3 launched at max range and the ship continued to close at max speed. The guys on the ship said it was banging, and shaking like crazy. It sound like it would come apart. Some SWO in the wardroom said it was the fastest he had ever seen the ship go. The AT3 made it. Got the medicinal shot and everything. Never found anything else from Deep Sea 005, nothing. One of the EVALs on 005 was from my hometown and we used to have lunch occasionally.
 

Flash

SEVAL/ECMO
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Not so fond memories: I flew on the mission that located the lone survivor of Deep Sea 005, an EA-3, after it broke up in flight. CVW 2, USS Ranger, Westpac 1982, I think.

A former VQ-1 NFO told me the story of his survival. Right as the plane started breaking up he remembers bouncing around in the plane after his seat came loose, the next thing he remembers is flying through the air in his seat and he pulled the D ring, the next thing he remembers is hanging in the chute. Apparently doesn't remember much else before he hit the water. BZ on helping him survive.
 

wink

War Hoover NFO.
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A former VQ-1 NFO told me the story of his survival. Right as the plane started breaking up he remembers bouncing around in the plane after his seat came loose, the next thing he remembers is flying through the air in his seat and he pulled the D ring, the next thing he remembers is hanging in the chute. Apparently doesn't remember much else before he hit the water. BZ on helping him survive.
That is the account we got from him as he sat in the raft. We wanted some details so we could adjust the search and know what to look for. At first he didn't want to all at all. CAG thought he might be trying to protect the pilot or avoid accusing any crew. But CAG worked it out of him. He explained why the details were important and that he didn't care how it happened, he cared about the men. The AT3 came around. But as you said, it wasn't much help, except we knew we were dealing with a high altitude break up and a large search area.
 

wink

War Hoover NFO.
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Lts Kertscher, M. Brown, and Pies. AE2 Snider, PO2 Watson, YNSN T. Smith, PHAN Roth, FN Hietola, and SN Benjamin. As you can tell, it wasn't a real world mission. It was supposed to be a good deal motivational flight. Besides the officers I believe the surviving AT3 and the AE2 were the only regular aircrew. Nine guys out of a VQ whale det, that hurts.
 
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