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Stupid Questions about Naval Aviation (Part 3)

SynixMan

HKG Based Artificial Excrement Pilot
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The Navy used to only get bravos for training up until a few years ago. A surge of fin failures made them reevaluate and now they won't issue them anymore.

I also haven't seen/heard of a Quebec being shot in the Navy, they tend to give us real warheads.

We had -Qs in Fallon and Norfolk.

Partially depended on the targets. I think the towed screens were better for Qs. Less chance to frag the entire sled.
 

kejo

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Hi. In the carrier catapult system, what is the function of the trail bar or hold bar?
The trial bar, or repeatable release holdback bar for -18s, allow the jet to be put in "tension," with forward tension being held by the nose gear launch bar on the spreader, and aft tension being held by the bars in question. In addition to what Renegade said, it also keeps the jet stable on the cat prior to military power and allows the catapult to "step up" to the rest of the launch sequence.

-A former shooter.
 

Jim123

DD-214 in hand and I'm gonna party like it's 1998
pilot
I should elaborate- the T-6 does instrument navigation using VOR-DME (including LOC and ILS) and GPS (enroute and LNAV only). So you'll learn all of those things in Primary, along with radar approaches. There's a strong emphasis on mastering the basics with things like paper planning (oh, the humanity!) but also being able to use modern technology.

The advanced pipelines do more or less similar instrument flying whether you fly helos, big wing, or fast jets, and with each pipeline having its individual flavor. Advanced instruments has a little less emphasis on the basics and more emphasis on what I'd broadly describe as cockpit management (CRM, handling emergencies, for a couple examples).
 

Jim123

DD-214 in hand and I'm gonna party like it's 1998
pilot
I’m sure he’s retired by now, but one of Meridian’s “Four Horsemen” sim instructors
Not sure retirement is really a thing with certain sim instructors... the spirit just sorta lives on :D


(Pretty sure the "Four Horsemen" legend is a thing at every training wing... I bet the USAF bases have it with their sim instructors too.)


@Austin-Powers (and any flight student), don't fear any simulator instructors with a mean or apparently angry demeanor when you get to primary. They're just molding you into something that you should be.
 

Austin-Powers

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@Austin-Powers (and any flight student), don't fear any simulator instructors with a mean or apparently angry demeanor when you get to primary. They're just molding you into something that you should be.

What do you mean "mean" and "angry" I get it when they shout at you in the cockpit to keep you calm under pressure, but I am confused.
 

Jim123

DD-214 in hand and I'm gonna party like it's 1998
pilot
@Austin-Powers (and any flight student), don't fear any simulator instructors with a mean or apparently angry demeanor when you get to primary. They're just molding you into something that you should be.

What do you mean "mean" and "angry" I get it when they shout at you in the cockpit to keep you calm under pressure, but I am confused.
There are very, very few left these days who actually raise their voice, but some still use an instructional style that involves asking a lot of questions. That's hard when the student is trying to concentrate on something, especially when the instructor comes across as, ummm, unhappy when you don't have all the right answers at your fingertips. It's just another way of making sure somebody can function under pressure, but when you're on the receiving end of it then it's easy to fall into a trap, get flustered, and perform badly. It's a lot like choking in sports on the day of the big game in the sense that it's mostly in your head.

I can't say that was ever my style in the aircraft (I've never been a sim guy) but it takes all kinds of styles to mold a good aviator.

Some students get pretty upset and complain about that style of instruction, although most toughen up from it. Really, most flight students want nothing to do with any "snowflake" stereotype of whichever generation they supposedly belong to.

That's all I meant.
 

Austin-Powers

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Ah okay I see...Thank you again Jim!

It's interesting that they don't raise their voices anymore...especially during the chaos of combat or even a training mission where you have to deploy ordnance in a specific time.
 

Gatordev

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It's interesting that they don't raise their voices anymore...especially during the chaos of combat or even a training mission where you have to deploy ordnance in a specific time.

Perhaps you should refamiliarize yourself with what goes on during Primary.

While I don't subscribe to the "screaming" style of instruction, it's a technique, like many others. The single-biggest complaint I saw students make, and I agree with, is standardization (or lack thereof) between the IPs and the sim instructors.

Also, if your sim instructor disappears from your console "to go pee," but you see him during other events out smoking on the porch of the building, you're probably doing okay. True story.
 
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