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USN Showdown between Super Hornet and F-35

Discussion in 'Current News' started by ChuckMK23, Feb 16, 2017.

  1. ChuckMK23

    ChuckMK23 Former H-46 Driver None

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  2. armada1651

    armada1651 Hey intern, get me a Campari! None

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    The notion of Rhinos and F-35s competing against each other is indicative of a fundamental misunderstanding of modern fighter aviation. It's like a football team having a competition to decide whether wide receivers or quarterbacks are "better."
     
  3. Recovering LSO

    Recovering LSO Suck Less Super Moderator Contributor None

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    This misses a lot.
     
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  4. Flash

    Flash SEVAL/ECMO Super Moderator None Contributor

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    Interesting management style.
     
  5. Renegade One

    Renegade One Well-Known Member None

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    Hasn't that long been the Naval Aviation Road Map?
     
  6. Randy Daytona

    Randy Daytona I want rock n roll - yes I do. Super Moderator None

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  7. Treetop Flyer

    Treetop Flyer Well-Known Member None

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    The point of the LHD/LHA is the embarked Marines and helos.

    Also I have no idea what that "article" has to do with what you said.
     
  8. Jim123

    Jim123 molding (warping) the future of naval aviation None

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    Legions of Marines, reading this on their computers:
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    :D
     
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  9. jmcquate

    jmcquate Well-Known Member

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    VSTOL is more for recovery than launch. Non angled decks don't play well with stuff spotted forward...............bolters aren't really an option.
     
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  10. sevenhelmet

    sevenhelmet Did I miss a step? None

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    This whole concept of a "showdown" is just: :rolleyes:

    It not only demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of modern fighter aircraft, but also of the intent of the F-35 buy. Even the original intent wasn't to replace every Super Hornet. And now... quite a bit less, it would seem.
     
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    zippy Freedom! Contributor None

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  12. Randy Daytona

    Randy Daytona I want rock n roll - yes I do. Super Moderator None

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    I am well aware of the Gator Navy's primary role.

    I also agree with the study below that if you are going to build a ship the size of a Midway class carrier (the America class LHA), then it should have catapults and an angled deck. This gives the Navy increased capability and flexibility for a relatively small price increase. The article also proposes a return to 4 ship ARG's.

    Too late now, but I wonder how much more capable and how much less expensive the F-35 could have been if it did not have a VSTOL requirement in any of the variants - thus influencing the F-35 vs F-18 debate. I leave that for the go fast guys. As the aircraft is in production and the question moot, this seems to more a shipbuilding question for the future.

    In www.realcleardefense.com earlier this week.

    http://csbaonline.org/research/publ...new-fleet-architecture-for-the-united-states-
     
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  13. jmcquate

    jmcquate Well-Known Member

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    The F-35 is in the fleet (at least on the green side). It's here. The program is too far along to re-think shit. Same shit happened with the F-14. It went through ACM bullshit with F-4s.
     
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  14. Jim123

    Jim123 molding (warping) the future of naval aviation None

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    Which is what it really is...
     
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    A Midway class carrier didn't embark a MEU. It's a ridiculous argument.

    Do we need big ass nuclear carriers instead of more smaller carriers? Do we need jets on LHD/A's? These are relevant questions. Arguing to turn an LHD into a CVA is just silly.
     
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