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Uncle Fester

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Another question - can the carrier's "First Lieutenant" be assigned aviator/NFO, or this is another SWO "mustang" job?

First Lieutenant on a carrier or big-deck 'phib is a department head. Sometimes they're 'vanilla' SWOs, though I have seen Bosun LDOs in the job. I don't know which is more typical currently. They supervise Deck Dept, which has First Div (Fo'c'sle and anchors), Second Div (midships and unrep gear), and Third Div (aft and small boats), each of which has a divo who can be a SWO, LDO, or Bosun. Manning policy changes.
 

exNavyOffRec

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First Lieutenant on a carrier or big-deck 'phib is a department head. Sometimes they're 'vanilla' SWOs, though I have seen Bosun LDOs in the job. I don't know which is more typical currently. They supervise Deck Dept, which has First Div (Fo'c'sle and anchors), Second Div (midships and unrep gear), and Third Div (aft and small boats), each of which has a divo who can be a SWO, LDO, or Bosun. Manning policy changes.

since my first carrier in the early 90's I have seen the first LT always be a LDO
 

Max the Mad Russian

Hands off Ukraine! Feet too
Thanks. And is that first LT billet for O-5 on a carriers? S/he is DH, after all... But honestly, I cannot imagine female as first LT...
We have similar billet on a big ships, Assistant of CO. Russian language is funny enough, and our XO in direct translation is Senior Assistant of CO. So he is senior one but on a cruiser or carrier there are up to three Assistants (all O-4s) subordinate to XO, and one of them is roughly equal to your first LT in areas of responsibility. Yet this is the step on a ladder to XO billet in future.
 

azguy

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Third was carrier's RO, a SWO(N) O-5, who confessed that his degree was in sociology or so. My wife who heard this said: "for the God's sake, tell me please how they can trust the nuclear boilers to a man with liberal education?" That is how this works here: you need to have definite diploma and definite formal education to have such a job...

Good advice, I'll pass that along... If you have any other great ideas on how the USN can learn from Russia about how to operate aircraft carriers, let us know. ;)
 

Max the Mad Russian

Hands off Ukraine! Feet too
Ah, screw it ;-) It's about series, TV show about Navy is not Navy. But it is one of a few ways that general society could learn about Navy, and usually learn wrong. Forget it. Maybe somebody someday somehow will manage to create the honest story about Navy that will be clear and loud message to ordinary people, but I'm afraid the war is needed for this to be possible, as usually had been in the past.
Aside, the only lessons that could be of some value from Russian side are from below the water. But neither I nor my wife are submariners (always thought that it's better to be drowning seeing the water surface from above), and this forum is not proper place for it.
 
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Max the Mad Russian

Hands off Ukraine! Feet too
Oh by the way, gents

Submarine DHs in USN - NAV, WEPS, ENG and CHOP - all should be Dolphin-qualified. But should all they be nukes? For what the reason the CHOP should be nuke, for example?
 
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