mtsupilot09
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^^^Absolutely. Getting slapped with a $3000 uniform bill at the end of OCS was great. Especially when $1000 of those uniforms never get used.
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Navy Working Uniform Type II and III - finally something sailors can wear....
- Thread starter ChuckMK23
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If you're around NASC, find someone redes-ing from the Boat School or NROTC. I bet they need uniforms. I offloaded 2 sets of NWUs that way.
Which is my point; saying the NWU's are better uniforms because 'they hide paint better' is a specious argument. (Fester, not looking at you here, this is the party line of the Navy)
Yes, they made hide paint better, but what sailor is going to want to ruin his NWUs painting when it costs $77 to replace the ruined ones??? You can pay $24 and get coveralls (I'm calling the name tapes, rank insignia and boots a wash since you need them for both) which is much easier to replace than a uniform that is 3 times as much.
You'd think it would make sense to use some disposable painters' coveralls instead of ruining working uniforms with paint.
I thought that was part of the reason they may have gone through SOCOM to help defer the cost. I think a key part of the quote about $80 million is "field" the new uniforms, the cost of buying them for the guys who will wear them. While it is a likely a bit more than to just keep buying the BDU's and ACU's I already pointed out earlier that the ACU contract runs out next spring and for the Navy alone to continue to buy them would cost us in the long term, and they ain't all that great when compared to the Marines new digis or the ACU's.
MasterBates
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The NWU is fucktarded.
And that's BEFORE you get into the "replaced" Aviation Greens.
Or how about the whole "can't be worn on flightline/flight deck" thing. (Button/FOD issues apparently). Yeah, the Navy is about boats, but Aviation is a pretty damn significant chunk of the force.
And that's BEFORE you get into the "replaced" Aviation Greens.
Or how about the whole "can't be worn on flightline/flight deck" thing. (Button/FOD issues apparently). Yeah, the Navy is about boats, but Aviation is a pretty damn significant chunk of the force.
MasterBates
Well-Known Member
No clue. The current regime is not a fan of me rattling admirals cages over AWGs, so I can't do much through official channels.
I'm just going to keep on wearing them anyways.
I'm just going to keep on wearing them anyways.
This whole topic reminds me of the retardathon called the Army aquisition system. When I came in it seemed just fine that all the services could wear Woodland and Desert BDU. I guess we had to follow the marines lead and come up with our own digital uniform. Seems like the Marines are the only ones who got it right. The Army has decided to use the Multicam. Which was originally in the running but lost out. Not sure why we didn't adopt the Marine version from the get go. The Army goes one step further and decides that we must have our very own flight uniform. The A2CU. The old two piece flight suit was pretty nice. The new one not so much. I'm sure the handful of Army aviators who frequent this forum will agree with me on that. By the by they are about 100 bones more than the CWU27 one or two piece flight suit. And now we will have the Multicam one and two piece flight suit. I think there was a portion in the last defense bill that talked of going to a common uniform. Probably would save the tax payers a lot of money.
I did like the days when you could get uniform items for your cammies at any NEX, AAFES, or MCX, not to mention the supply systems. Now every service has proprietary cammie patterns, and you can't get support from anyone but your home service. Maybe the USMC could just take off the miniature Eagle, Globe, and Anchors and embroidery off its new utilities, and everyone can use the same things again. Heresy, I know.
No, I know every service is special, unique, and desperately needs unique uniform items in order to accomplish its missions. The f--g world would end if soldiers were allowed to wear the same camouflage pattern as Marines, except for the 50 years prior to MCCUUs, when they did.
No, I know every service is special, unique, and desperately needs unique uniform items in order to accomplish its missions. The f--g world would end if soldiers were allowed to wear the same camouflage pattern as Marines, except for the 50 years prior to MCCUUs, when they did.
From what I've heard it will be OEF only. As a guard Bubba I hope to never see it again. I'm sure we'll have another uniform change within the next three or four years anyway.
The way I heard the story, the Marines tried to get the Army and Navy onboard to develop new digi cammies. Nobody wanted in, so the Marines (with the smaler budget) paid for it themselves. Now everybody wonders why the Marines don't just give them their proprietary pattern for free.
Whatever the solution we proably need to pick one uniform for the DOD and be over with it.
We all fight in the same places. I can only speak for the Army but who ever picked the current ACU pattern in the Army should be held accountable. So much money has been wasted on new uniforms in the ast 6 years. I guess pride gets in the way as well. The Marines got it right and the rest screwed the pooch.
When OEF and New Dawn are complete I'm sure defense funding is going to be the first to go.Remember the good old days after Desert Storm? Not a whole lot of cash being thrown around.
We all fight in the same places. I can only speak for the Army but who ever picked the current ACU pattern in the Army should be held accountable. So much money has been wasted on new uniforms in the ast 6 years. I guess pride gets in the way as well. The Marines got it right and the rest screwed the pooch.
When OEF and New Dawn are complete I'm sure defense funding is going to be the first to go.Remember the good old days after Desert Storm? Not a whole lot of cash being thrown around.
GreenLantern330
Active Member
Quick question: are any of these working uniforms supposed to actually be replacing any other uniforms? I keep looking at pictures on navy.mil and I feel like I keep seeing coveralls and NWUs but none of these newer working uniforms...