Mission Funded Master's Degrees

[Tycho_Brohe]

Yes, there are guys I know in the VTs and HTs who are in both programs. NPS has an EMBA which meets one day a week via VTC. NWC has its fleet seminar program where Classes are one night a week for 3 hours from Sept until May. 3 of those courses get you JPME-1 and if you enroll in the Masters program make up the 3 core classes for that- all you have to do is take 9 credits worth of electives in an approved sub-speciality to get a Masters in National Security Studies.

Regarding the EMBA from NPS, I looked into the eligibility. One part of the NPS site says Lieutenant Commander and above, but another part says senior Lieutenant through Commander, and it further states you must have completed a Division Officer tour and be recommended by their CO. Can you shed some light on this? Does the sea tour count as a Division Officer tour?

 

[zippy]

Regarding the EMBA from NPS, I looked into the eligibility. One part of the NPS site says Lieutenant Commander and above, but another part says senior Lieutenant through Commander, and it further states you must have completed a Division Officer tour and be recommended by their CO. Can you shed some light on this? Does the sea tour count as a Division Officer tour?

Target group is O-4+, O-3s can attend with CO recommendation. First sea tour counts as a DIVO tour.

 

[Tycho_Brohe]

Target group is O-4+, O-3s can attend with CO recommendation. First sea tour counts as a DIVO tour.

Understood, thanks for the help

 

[ChunksJR]

ALL,

I just applied for 2x SSCs for my ERAU masters. The PERS-45 rep said to put a "P" code, as ERAU is accredited, so "technically" Navy-sponsored?

My question is: has anyone here (URL) actually used a SSC to do something that they otherwise wouldn't have been able to do? I guess I'm just looking for details that may explain WHAT actual options are availible and how people have hated/enjoyed that (other than the generic statement "it opens more doors later in your career...")

Thanks!
~cb

 

[DitchDigger]

I have a slightly skewed question. Do Masters degrees that are non-mission-funded i.e. pre-service considered in these boards or are they looking more towards those degrees which are Navy-sponsored when making these considerations? Basically wondering if I need to attain another Masters or go for a PhD if I wanted to remain competitive in the future.

 

[PropAddict]

A graduate degree is a graduate degree, as far as promotion boards are concerned. Doesn't matter what it's in or where it's from.

Where you MIGHT be able to find a difference is in the extra sub specialty codes you can pick up with some of the mission-funded grad degrees. I've seen slates at that O-4+ level where specific billets required certain subspecialty codes, usually in MBA, Acquisitions, or <insert specific warfare area here>, from what I've seen from the URL side. My buddy lucked into a cake job on SUBPAC staff because he did the online ASW certificate program through NPS en route to getting his masters, and the guy who had been slated for the job didn't have the SSC.

 

[ChunksJR]

Just got the following from the PERS-45E detailer:"Good afternoon, Sir. I wanted to let you know that I have received your request for a subspecialty code based on education. In accordance with NOOCS Vol2, only one subspecialty code is authorized per Master's level degree earned. Based on your completion of a Master's degree from Embry-Riddle in 2012 you have been awarded the 3000P subspecialty code. This code has been entered into your record and will reflect on your ODC in one week.

If you would like to request the 3120P subspecialty code I will submit your request to the subject matter experts and if you are awarded the code, it would replace the 3000P. I just wanted to verify with you, Sir, before submitting the request for the 3120P."

Then...in asking for what to do (which one I should post) I got this from my PERS-43 detailer:

"The 3000P is Resource management while the 3120P is Logistics and transportation - both of which are listed under Resource management and Analysis as far as SUBSPEC go. Financial management (FM) is also listed in this category. Since neither is FM though, nor would it qualify to be, I would stick with the 3000P. Either is fine though"

 

[BackOrdered]

Just got the following from the PERS-45E detailer:"Good afternoon, Sir. I wanted to let you know that I have received your request for a subspecialty code based on education. In accordance with NOOCS Vol2, only one subspecialty code is authorized per Master's level degree earned. Based on your completion of a Master's degree from Embry-Riddle in 2012 you have been awarded the 3000P subspecialty code. This code has been entered into your record and will reflect on your ODC in one week.

If you would like to request the 3120P subspecialty code I will submit your request to the subject matter experts and if you are awarded the code, it would replace the 3000P. I just wanted to verify with you, Sir, before submitting the request for the 3120P."

Then...in asking for what to do (which one I should post) I got this from my PERS-43 detailer:

"The 3000P is Resource management while the 3120P is Logistics and transportation - both of which are listed under Resource management and Analysis as far as SUBSPEC go. Financial management (FM) is also listed in this category. Since neither is FM though, nor would it qualify to be, I would stick with the 3000P. Either is fine though"

A dumb but informative question for the URL junior guys lurking this thread, what now (detailing/career wise) does this mean for you?

 

[ChunksJR]

A dumb but informative question for the URL junior guys lurking this thread, what now (detailing/career wise) does this mean for you?

I have no idea. Something great (or shitty) maybe? In lurking/searching here, and then asking around, there are a few more billets that I may be eligible to play for now, especially, if after this tour (DH), i don't get a #1 EP with a significant amount of time (>6 months) FITREP (basically because I'd be out of play for CO, but still in the running/hunt for O-5).

What those billets are/entail, I have no idea.

 

[sickboy]

Reviving a dead thread here. Any follow up experiences with NPS online? I'm looking into it, but don't really have any interest in an MBA at this point. I'm considering either the System's Analysis or Systems Engineering route. Anyone have any experience with either program? Finally, my real concern is in the (unlikely) event that I get picked up for TPS, how realistic would it be to take a leave of absence from the program during TPS? I'm pretty sure I already know the answer on that last one.

 

[IKE]

Reviving a dead thread here. Any follow up experiences with NPS online? I'm looking into it, but don't really have any interest in an MBA at this point. I'm considering either the System's Analysis or Systems Engineering route. Anyone have any experience with either program? Finally, my real concern is in the (unlikely) event that I get picked up for TPS, how realistic would it be to take a leave of absence from the program during TPS? I'm pretty sure I already know the answer on that last one.

Are you a rotary flyer? A master's is a de facto requirement for helo TPS candidates right now, as HX-21 is only taking 2 pilots/yr for the foreseeable future, and there is no shortage of candidates with #1 EPs & MSs from quality (non-DL) programs. Not being snooty, those are just the facts of recent times (I got TPS in '12 w/o an MS)

If not, and you get into TPS, there are both Aero and Systems MS tracks at NPS (via DL) which provide many credits for the 48-wk TPS syllabus, so it may be wasted effort to start something before you know if you get TPS.

Most people I know who have completed the DL SE curriculum at NPS have been pleased with the overall workload, but frustrated by everything you'd expect from DL (minimal instructor interaction, low rigor, etc.)

Edit: a JO friend of mine translated his NPS DL SE MS into a job at Apple after his MSR was up, so it is valued.

 

[sickboy]

Are you a rotary flyer? A master's is a de facto requirement for helo TPS candidates right now, as HX-21 is only taking 2 pilots/yr for the foreseeable future, and there is no shortage of candidates with #1 EPs & MSs from quality (non-DL) programs. Not being snooty, those are just the facts of recent times (I got TPS in '12 w/o an MS)

If not, and you get into TPS, there are both Aero and Systems MS tracks at NPS (via DL) which provide many credits for the 48-wk TPS syllabus, so it may be wasted effort to start something before you know if you get TPS.

Most people I know who have completed the DL SE curriculum at NPS have been pleased with the overall workload, but frustrated by everything you'd expect from DL (minimal instructor interaction, low rigor, etc.)

Edit: a JO friend of mine translated his NPS DL SE MS into a job at Apple after his MSR was up, so it is valued.

I am a Helo guy, so that's some good info to know, and slightly unfortunate news. I'll be getting towards the end of my shore tour by the time I'm done with that program and possibly running into timing issues. Regardless, get Masters and a better EP. Thanks.