MasterBates
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It tightens up your skin temporarily.. Same way it helps your hemhoriods.
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It tightens up your skin temporarily.. Same way it helps your hemhoriods.
Sounds interesting, Ive never had to use the product ... thanks for filling me in.
MasterBates
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I found out about it because my ex would use it to hide stretchmarks! 
That was quite the woman you had there ... why did you let her get away?I found out about it because my ex would use it to hide stretchmarks!
Rhetorical question, Ive heard about it .... :icon_wink
I guess you could also set him up on the "big neck" machine over at the gym.
I commend your efforts for wanting to help out a shipmate, but continuous leadership throughout the year is by far preferable to helping someone scam the system at the last second. Surely, the fact that he must participate in a semiannual PRT is not news to this Sailor, so I think it reflects poorly on himself and his leadership if he is in "disgusting fat-ass" status a week before the weigh in. The W/C Sup, LPO or BCPO must have noticed that Airman Timmy looked like 200lbs of shit in a 150lb sack; did anyone tell him to go snag some PT at lunch instead of getting the "big pig sandwich" from the gut truck? Did anyone drag his ass out to the PRT trail or to the gym?
This guy's PFA failure may be unavoidable, but what is your work center doing to make sure it doesn't happen again next cycle? Does your W/C have a PT program? I am aware that group PT is not everyone's bag, but being proactive beats the hell out of being in the situation this guy is in now. Also, group PT with the W/C is motivating, and even though people are bitching, they can't help but build comaraderie and teamwork.
Sorry for the rant, it's just that the "Fitness as an afterthought" attitude is one of the things that really chaps my ass about the Navy.*
* Disclaimer: Yes, I am aware that this attitude is not shared by all Sailors.
I commend your efforts for wanting to help out a shipmate, but continuous leadership throughout the year is by far preferable to helping someone scam the system at the last second. Surely, the fact that he must participate in a semiannual PRT is not news to this Sailor, so I think it reflects poorly on himself and his leadership if he is in "disgusting fat-ass" status a week before the weigh in. The W/C Sup, LPO or BCPO must have noticed that Airman Timmy looked like 200lbs of shit in a 150lb sack; did anyone tell him to go snag some PT at lunch instead of getting the "big pig sandwich" from the gut truck? Did anyone drag his ass out to the PRT trail or to the gym?
This guy's PFA failure may be unavoidable, but what is your work center doing to make sure it doesn't happen again next cycle? Does your W/C have a PT program? I am aware that group PT is not everyone's bag, but being proactive beats the hell out of being in the situation this guy is in now. Also, group PT with the W/C is motivating, and even though people are bitching, they can't help but build comaraderie and teamwork.
Sorry for the rant, it's just that the "Fitness as an afterthought" attitude is one of the things that really chaps my ass about the Navy.*
* Disclaimer: Yes, I am aware that this attitude is not shared by all Sailors.
MasterBates
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I think group PT can be a double edged sword... I saw two versions of it at my last command..
Version A: The I'm so hardcore, I'm going to break you or make you look like a fool PT. Often led by the fitness Nazi that runs 6 miles a day and spends 3 hours in the gym. And is pissed that you don't.. People either get hurt, or look like fools because after 30 8-count body buiders or 100 bends&thrusts 3/4 people are starting to "fall out"..
Version B: We're going to be easy so nobody falls out, but it's a waste of time for 3/4 of you..
Version B was common most of the time, but if there was a heavy Khaki contignent, version A seemed to come out..
Version A: The I'm so hardcore, I'm going to break you or make you look like a fool PT. Often led by the fitness Nazi that runs 6 miles a day and spends 3 hours in the gym. And is pissed that you don't.. People either get hurt, or look like fools because after 30 8-count body buiders or 100 bends&thrusts 3/4 people are starting to "fall out"..
Version B: We're going to be easy so nobody falls out, but it's a waste of time for 3/4 of you..
Version B was common most of the time, but if there was a heavy Khaki contignent, version A seemed to come out..
It's simply a personnel management tool and not any measure of fitness. It's in fact, about the worst way to measure body fat and the height weight tables are a joke against any modern standards (not the governments) . We just played the game and moved on. If a command wants a sailor to stay they'll make it work, if they don't they won't pass. At one point in my career no single program killed more sailors than the PRT program.
We split it into 2 groups, which was necessary to ensure work center manning anyway. We organized these two groups by ability. Tragedy adverted.
It doesn't have to be a thrash-ex al the time either. We would PT 3 days a week as a group, the goal is for everyone to meet their personal threshold. On Fridays, we would reserve the gym floor and play dodgeball....good times for all.
I agree that formation runs are boring, and of little use to any of the participants.
It doesn't have to be a thrash-ex al the time either. We would PT 3 days a week as a group, the goal is for everyone to meet their personal threshold. On Fridays, we would reserve the gym floor and play dodgeball....good times for all.
I agree that formation runs are boring, and of little use to any of the participants.
If you are talking about 1 mass formation, then I would have to agree. I think my NROTC unit has it figured out though. We split it into 4 groups, ranging from fast (9 min PRT guys) down to slow (11+ min guys). These groups are stagger-started in intervals of ~2 mins. On a 4 mile run, these groups will finish in the same order they started, but close together. This also has the added benefit of giving it 100% for the last 1/2 mile or so, becuase no one wants to get passed.
originalbigjim
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we do have command PT but due to manning issues and an over inflated sense of importance of my supervisor my shop does not go to command pt, so for the past 3 months I have been taking this guy on 3 mile runs 2 times a week trying to get him in shape, he will have no problem passing the run, situps or the push ups but he has lost most of the weight in his neck and he triple chin was helped him pass last prt. I think his biggest problem is that he eats at the galley and McNasty every day and never eats right. We both thought he would have been ok but we did a per-weight in and he was only 2 inches off. This guy really is trying to get his stuff together not just for the navy but for his health. I would really like to see him pass, all the advice is helpful and keep it comming.
If he fails this cycle, and its his first failure, he won't jeopardize his career. He'll just have to do mando until he gets those inches off. If this is his third failure, he could be processed for admin sep. However, if he has been working hard, improving, and his parfq records support this claim, the CO can waive the administrative separation for "progress". My command has kicked out 25 folks in the past year for the pfa, only one was kept for progress.
That is very true. Funny how the PRT standards and enforcement tightened about the same time the Navy decided it needed to downsize by several tens of thousands of personnel.
Holy shit! That is way more than I have ever seen. I am sure this is common knowledge, but every sailor that gets admin sep'ed means it is that much harded to get the job done. It would certianly be very hard for a command to recover from 25 people lost in one year.
Ok, I really hate to pick this apart, because I know you're trying to do a good thing, but I probably wouldn't want to go to command PT either, it sounds like an invitation for a disorganized goat-fuck. A work center is much easier to manage, and will certainly produce better results since the personnel know eachother well and know how to motivate others to excel. Definitely not buying the manning issues thingy.
Bravo Zulu. Speaks wel for you.
Beautiful irony
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I know that you're not in a position to implement policy in your Work Center of Division, but that doesn't stop you from coming up with a well thought out plan, presenting it to your superiors and volunteering yourself to be accountable for it.
Oceana is an great place to do organized PT, and the variations of exercises are limited only by your imagination. I loved doing fartlek runs and sprints up (steep) hills in the dirt roads beind CBU 414, but most people don't even know that there are miles of soft-footed running trails back there.......
Good on you for looking out for your peers, I really have to commend your effort. Be sure you're taking notes now for use when you have a few more stripes.