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International Burn a Qu'ran Day

exhelodrvr

Well-Known Member
pilot
Many of you think this pastor is crazy...and he may be...but may not be ignorant...
Burning the Koran is an act of war to many Muslims, particularly in the Arab world - many clerics have said so. Violence with Arabs isn't just rooted in Islam, it's rooted in poverty, corruption, failed governments, and culture. Sharia law and Islam is what empowers and fuels violence. That pastor knows that doing this will truly bring out the militant nature of those....

In the short-term, it's an almost impossible situation. We need their assistance to stop particular types/acts of violence, which requires assisting/encouraging the institutions that lead to the violence we are trying to stop. Try to walk the tightrope of kissing up to them enough to get their assistance at some level, while not kissing up to them too much that we lose the respect that is vital in that culture. And hopefully be able to walk that tightrope long enough that the cultures will change enough that they will no longer encourage the particular types of violence that concern us.
 

East

东部
Contributor
Something to think about;

I am not an American but as of today not ONE quran has been burned (yet)....
How many AMERICAN flags have been burned already worldwide over this issue?
Even as "Euro-trash" I am offended by seeing the stars and stripes burned.

Amen!
 

yak52driver

Well-Known Member
Contributor
In the short-term, it's an almost impossible situation. We need their assistance to stop particular types/acts of violence, which requires assisting/encouraging the institutions that lead to the violence we are trying to stop. Try to walk the tightrope of kissing up to them enough to get their assistance at some level, while not kissing up to them too much that we lose the respect that is vital in that culture. And hopefully be able to walk that tightrope long enough that the cultures will change enough that they will no longer encourage the particular types of violence that concern us.

Hasn't this been the challenge our country has dealt with for decades with the middle east in general? I believe you are correct, but we've had U.S. representatives like Hery Kissinger (my earliest recollection) and since that have tried to negotiate a long standing peace. I'd like to think it's an achievable goal, but often wonder if it is.
 

gparks1989

Well-Known Member
pilot
Contributor
Many of you think this pastor is crazy...and he may be...but may not be ignorant...
Burning the Koran is an act of war to many Muslims, particularly in the Arab world - many clerics have said so. Violence with Arabs isn't just rooted in Islam, it's rooted in poverty, corruption, failed governments, and culture. Sharia law and Islam is what empowers and fuels violence. That pastor knows that doing this will truly bring out the militant nature of those....


Why would he do that? What purpose does added fuel to figurative fire achieve?
 

exhelodrvr

Well-Known Member
pilot
Hasn't this been the challenge our country has dealt with for decades with the middle east in general? I believe you are correct, but we've had U.S. representatives like Hery Kissinger (my earliest recollection) and since that have tried to negotiate a long standing peace. I'd like to think it's an achievable goal, but often wonder if it is.

Long-standing peace along the line of the peace on the Korean peninsula is possible. Long-standing peace along the lines of the peace between the U.S. and Canada would require significant changes to the cultures there. Not impossible, but pretty unlikely.
 

Flash

SEVAL/ECMO
None
Super Moderator
Contributor
Many of you think this pastor is crazy...and he may be...but may not be ignorant...
Burning the Koran is an act of war to many Muslims, particularly in the Arab world - many clerics have said so. Violence with Arabs isn't just rooted in Islam, it's rooted in poverty, corruption, failed governments, and culture. Sharia law and Islam is what empowers and fuels violence. That pastor knows that doing this will truly bring out the militant nature of those....

And many, including Iraq's most prominent and powerful one, call for tolerance and restraint while condemning the proposed book burning.
 

exhelodrvr

Well-Known Member
pilot
Why would he do that? What purpose does added fuel to figurative fire achieve?

In the long-term, the more light that is shed on the true nature of these cultures, the better. There is a short-term price, though, that needs to be weighed against the long-term benefits of doing that.
 

yak52driver

Well-Known Member
Contributor
Long-standing peace along the line of the peace on the Korean peninsula is possible. Long-standing peace along the lines of the peace between the U.S. and Canada would require significant changes to the cultures there. Not impossible, but pretty unlikely.

Agree.
 

eddie

Working Plan B
Contributor
Some cultures just find themselves beeing rebooted from time to time. It's ok. I'm beginning to believe they just don't last that long or really providd that much value on their own anyways.


:)
 

FlyingOnFumes

Nobel WAR Prize Aspirant
I wonder what creating this would get me in the Islamic world:
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or better yet, similar to what Phrog suggested, putting it into this after doing so:
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http://www.cluboc.net/reviews/data_protection/plexeraser/index.htm
:D
 

scoolbubba

Brett327 gargles ballsacks
pilot
Contributor
Random wardroom banter: "what if we make a thousand digital copies of the qu'ran and then delete them?"
 
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