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IFS Gouge
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ryan1234
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On the other side of the rainbow, AF IFS is mandatory for the Guard guys now (not sure about AD and Reserve) - doesn't matter about previous civilian certificates/ratings/type ratings.
There is a former IFS instructor from AMS in Milton who got a Guard C-130 slot and is at AF IFS.
All AF pilots go through IFS. My question would be if you have your PPL but still want to go through Navy IFS is that possible?
Nope. The Navy won't waste their money on training you have already gotten.
Deror
How can I make this thread more awkward?
Didn't think it merited its own thread since it's mentioned repeatedly in this one:
There are several mentions of SNA's DORing at one point or another in the pipeline. What is the normal cause of this? A preferable ground MOS? I don't think I would have forgiven myself if I DOR'd at OCS and I'm sure 99% of 2ndLt's feel the same way. What makes flight school different? Is it that hard or do people just freak out?
There are several mentions of SNA's DORing at one point or another in the pipeline. What is the normal cause of this? A preferable ground MOS? I don't think I would have forgiven myself if I DOR'd at OCS and I'm sure 99% of 2ndLt's feel the same way. What makes flight school different? Is it that hard or do people just freak out?
Didn't think it merited its own thread since it's mentioned repeatedly in this one:
There are several mentions of SNA's DORing at one point or another in the pipeline. What is the normal cause of this? A preferable ground MOS? I don't think I would have forgiven myself if I DOR'd at OCS and I'm sure 99% of 2ndLt's feel the same way. What makes flight school different? Is it that hard or do people just freak out?
Depends on the person. Some people legitimately fail out. Others quit because they get deathly ill while flying over and over and over again. (I'm speaking for Navy side, USMC might be different, but I know guys/girls from both branches who have quit/failed out).
Others that I know DOR because flying isn't as much fun as they thought it was going to be or what they thought it would be/envisioned it. The ratio of studying to flying is heavily loaded on the studying side. There are others who don't realize just how much studying, preparation, and more studying you actually do once you're down here and get shocked once it all kicks in to start. Honestly, IFS/API don't even require THAT much studying to do well....ok API does, IFS, does not.
But again, its dependent on the person. Every scenario I just named, I have a friend or someone I know that I could tie to those examples. If you are having trouble keeping up with IFS "academics" (that's sad) and you'll probably have some problems in API keeping up. If you have trouble keeping up in API, then primary might be troublesome, and so on. That's just my opinion....i'm sure there are guys on here who would disagree and who are the example of that not being true. If you're in it to win it, keep your eye on the prize, work hard, and stay motivated and you wont have a problem.
I thought IFS suddenly got hard for the people who were now being forced to take the tests and courses in the building rather than doing it at home. I remember the academics being quite a bit more daunting than I expected. I did well , but it did surprise me. I didn't have to take the course in the comp lab up in the schoolhouse, and I don't know how well I'd do in that environment.
Its really not that bad on the computers. We were the first few classes to try it, so we didn't have to sit there all day but we still had to do all our exams in the computer lab and not on your own time haha..
Its just like studying for any other test. And they give you a workbook that pretty much is the test questions. By the time you got to the FAA exam, you knew damn near half the questions asked by heart, just from seeing them so much.
I did IFS ground school completely in the computer lab. It wasn't so much that it was terribly difficult, is that it was miserable to stare at a computer screen for 5 hours a day. It wasn't so bad the second week, since you go in the mornings and have study hall in the afternoon. First week sucks, though; study hall --> lunch --> 5 hours of computer work.
As CUPike11 said, IFS isn't too bad. It's Pass/Fail only, so the stress level is definitely less than it is in API (when there's an NSS to be met, anyway). The FAA Exam book they give you has pretty much every FAA exam question, answer, and explanation in it. Studying that is, no joke, the best thing you can do to review for the stage checks.
I guess it was the 6+ hrs of daily clicking through that inane computer-learning software that made me think that if I didn't have the chance to stop it, go in front of my tv, sit on my couch, crack open a beer... I'd murder someone. At least it was only two weeks.
Agreed, It's worse than NKO
FlyinRock
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IFS is a piece of cake compared to what follows. If you can't hack it with the easy stuff in IFS you may as well head for a different MOS. I am involved in the simulator with the T-6 now and have to do the same training that new studs do but I'm required to get further in depth as an instructor. I was an IFS instructor for five years and that was a piece of cake compared to what you get in primary.
If an old dude like me can hack it, there should be no reason for a youngster fresh out of college not to do well unless they are not cut out for flying. THAT is what IFS does ....helps weed out those who don't like flying after all.
Those who DOR after they get into primary have varied reasons and there is no particular pattern that I have been able to find.
Semper Fi
Rocky
If an old dude like me can hack it, there should be no reason for a youngster fresh out of college not to do well unless they are not cut out for flying. THAT is what IFS does ....helps weed out those who don't like flying after all.
Those who DOR after they get into primary have varied reasons and there is no particular pattern that I have been able to find.
Semper Fi
Rocky
For those of you complaining about the computer training, realize that this is how its now being done even in the fleet. After IFS, primary and advanced were filled with CAI's. In the FRS, those CAIs became ICW's, with computerized lectures (CAIs) and tests (IGRs). Now, in my fleet squadron, we are dealing with ACOLs. Prepare to spend a lot of time learning in front of a computer screen, as painful as it sounds.