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exNavyOffRec

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Command and Staff College said:
What is the board perspective on DCO Candidates that have JPME which is high valued but do not have a PHR certification. Also have certifications in IT, Program Management and Acquisition Life Cycle Logistics which Human Resources Officers should consider in order to understand supply chain management, IT, financial and program management function which are starting to become inherent functions of their duties, responsibilities and billets. The new wave HR billets will require HR officers to understands these functions.
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I would ask RUFIO what his thoughts are as well, but myself I have never known a HR officer that needed IT certs, HR is about personnel management, on the civilian side it is all about the PHR or SHRM-CP I don't know of or work with any HR person that has any certifications other than HR specific and these are people that are at all levels. The people I know in HR are in Aerospace, medical, supply, manufacturing, pretty much most industries.
 
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exNavyOffRec

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Command and Staff College said:
What is the board perspective on DCO Candidates that have JPME which is high valued but do not have a PHR certification. Also have certifications in IT, Program Management and Acquisition Life Cycle Logistics which Human Resources Officers should consider in order to understand supply chain management, IT, financial and program management function which are starting to become inherent functions of their duties, responsibilities and billets. The new wave HR billets will require HR officers to understands these functions.
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I knew RUFIO would have good USN info on this, what the USN likes their HR officers to have and what civilian side looks for are not the same, if you are looking at going into HR in civilian world you need to get your PHR/SHRM-CP as most of the certificates that are in the document RUFIO sent are not needed in civilian side.

are you looking at going into HR on civilian side?
 
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Command and Staff College

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NavyOffRec said:
I knew RUFIO would have good USN info on this, what the USN likes their HR officers to have and what civilian side looks for are not the same, if you are looking at going into HR in civilian world you need to get your PHR/SHRM-CP as most of the certificates that are in the document RUFIO sent are not needed in civilian side.

are you looking at going into HR on civilian side?
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I am currently work in HR as a Civil Service Employee for the Federal government (GS-13). HR is a broad field and HR certs or HR related certs are not just limited to the PHR/SPHR or GPHR. The Federal Government has not made the PHR a requirement nor limit us from obtaining other pertinent HR related certs. Rufio provided an outstanding example of the different types of certs that an HR officer can have. Page 5 of the document he sent speaks to HR related certs outside of the PHR. There were HR Certs on the page that reference, IT, Financial management, supply chain management, program management as well as JPME Phase 1. All these function may be inherent functions or duties based on the billet that you occupy or federal agency that you work for. I spoke with two Navy Reserve Commanders that are HR Officers and they confirmed what I am saying.
 
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subreservist

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My 2 cents, based on speaking with Navy HR officers (1 of which that got picked as an FTS HR), skimming through the document above and my own experience:

The PHR/SPHR is THE main document that would influence a board. Even the certifications document has it listed as being "encouraged" for all HR areas. The other documents come across as being "nice" to have.

If you're really trying to get into the club, I would push to get the PHR. Those other documents would break you out when a board has multiple PHR-qualified candidates to select from. But if you don't have PHR, my thoughts is a board would just move to the next candidate.
 
FormerRecruitingGuru

FormerRecruitingGuru

Making Recruiting Great Again
Command and Staff College said:
I am currently work in HR as a Civil Service Employee for the Federal government (GS-13). HR is a broad field and HR certs or HR related certs are not just limited to the PHR/SPHR or GPHR. The Federal Government has not made the PHR a requirement nor limit us from obtaining other pertinent HR related certs. Rufio provided an outstanding example of the different types of certs that an HR officer can have. Page 5 of the document he sent speaks to HR related certs outside of the PHR. There were HR Certs on the page that reference, IT, Financial management, supply chain management, program management as well as JPME Phase 1. All these function may be inherent functions or duties based on the billet that you occupy or federal agency that you work for. I spoke with two Navy Reserve Commanders that are HR Officers and they confirmed what I am saying.
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But the PHR/SPHR/GPHR and/or the SHRM-CP are the two big certs to have. Subreservist nailed it, it's nice to have JPME, IT, Supply Chain certs but they don't have as much impact was the first two certs I mentioned before. If you don't get selected to this FY16 board, I'd highly recommend taking and getting your PHR or SHRM-CP certification for a FY17 board.
 
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exNavyOffRec

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Command and Staff College said:
I am currently work in HR as a Civil Service Employee for the Federal government (GS-13). HR is a broad field and HR certs or HR related certs are not just limited to the PHR/SPHR or GPHR. The Federal Government has not made the PHR a requirement nor limit us from obtaining other pertinent HR related certs. Rufio provided an outstanding example of the different types of certs that an HR officer can have. Page 5 of the document he sent speaks to HR related certs outside of the PHR. There were HR Certs on the page that reference, IT, Financial management, supply chain management, program management as well as JPME Phase 1. All these function may be inherent functions or duties based on the billet that you occupy or federal agency that you work for. I spoke with two Navy Reserve Commanders that are HR Officers and they confirmed what I am saying.
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That is why I said there is a difference between USN and civilian, most of those certs provide no benefit on civilian side, a follow up 2 people gave me is without a PHR/SHRM-CP the application wouldn't even get to the recruiter as many companies (including theirs) now have what are referred to as "knock out" questions, it says "do you have a PHR/SHRM-CP and the answer is Yes or No, a no is a show stopper.

One of the classes I went to had a few HR people from a specific company, the company had given notice of downsizing to the employees, the HR department was notified the 1st cut line was who did and did not obtain HR certifications (PHR or HRA) as appropriate.
 
Jones29681

Jones29681

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Older thread, new questions. I've been working on my kit for the FY18 Supply board. My OR and I also were also kicking around the HR community and wanted to do a little research from the pros here at AW. My skills fall in between Supply and HR due to the type of business I run and my role/responsibilities within the company. Trying to decide now where my skills will best help the Navy, and then work towards getting selected.

1) I know the most recent board was cancelled. Any insight into whether or not the FY18 board SHOULD happen? I know it's almost a year away, but maybe someone in the community has some thoughts.
2) PHR vs. SPHR? If I decide to submit to the HR board I will need to go ahead and get certified. Does the board have a preference on which cert to get? The SPHR aligns much closer to what I do in my civilian career, but I'm also under the impression it's a more challenging cert to get. I don't mind taking on the challenge, UNLESS it would be viewed negatively that I got SPHR instead of PHR.
3) If there are any Reserve HR Officers on the forum that wouldn't mind answering some more of my questions via PM, I would greatly appreciate it. My OR is an HR Reserve officer, but he's been 1207 (FTS) basically since he commissioned, so his experience is different than that of a 1205.

Thanks in advance.
 
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FormerRecruitingGuru

FormerRecruitingGuru

Making Recruiting Great Again
Jones29681 said:
Older thread, new questions. I've been working on my kit for the FY18 Supply board. My OR and I also were also kicking around the HR community and wanted to do a little research from the pros here at AW. My skills fall in between Supply and HR due to the type of business I run and my role/responsibilities within the company. Trying to decide now where my skills will best help the Navy, and then work towards getting selected.

1) I know the most recent board was cancelled. Any insight into whether or not the FY18 board SHOULD happen? I know it's almost a year away, but maybe someone in the community has some thoughts.
2) PHR vs. SPHR? If I decide to submit to the HR board I will need to go ahead and get certified. Does the board have a preference on which cert to get? The SPHR aligns much closer to what I do in my civilian career, but I'm also under the impression it's a more challenging cert to get. I don't mind taking on the challenge, UNLESS it would be viewed negatively that I got SPHR instead of PHR.
3) If there are any Reserve HR Officers on the forum that wouldn't mind answering some more of my questions via PM, I would greatly appreciate it. My OR is an HR Reserve officer, but he's been 1207 (FTS) basically since he commissioned, so his experience is different than that of a 1205.

Thanks in advance.
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Wait, what board got cancelled?
 
Jones29681

Jones29681

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I was told that the 5Dec2016 HR DCO board (FY17 quotas) was cancelled. This was just in passing during our discussion of the HR community, so I might've misheard. I'll definitely defer to you there. My apologies if I'm spreading bad information. If so, I'll take my lashes.
 
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exNavyOffRec

Well-Known Member
Jones29681 said:
Older thread, new questions. I've been working on my kit for the FY18 Supply board. My OR and I also were also kicking around the HR community and wanted to do a little research from the pros here at AW. My skills fall in between Supply and HR due to the type of business I run and my role/responsibilities within the company. Trying to decide now where my skills will best help the Navy, and then work towards getting selected.

1) I know the most recent board was cancelled. Any insight into whether or not the FY18 board SHOULD happen? I know it's almost a year away, but maybe someone in the community has some thoughts.
2) PHR vs. SPHR? If I decide to submit to the HR board I will need to go ahead and get certified. Does the board have a preference on which cert to get? The SPHR aligns much closer to what I do in my civilian career, but I'm also under the impression it's a more challenging cert to get. I don't mind taking on the challenge, UNLESS it would be viewed negatively that I got SPHR instead of PHR.
3) If there are any Reserve HR Officers on the forum that wouldn't mind answering some more of my questions via PM, I would greatly appreciate it. My OR is an HR Reserve officer, but he's been 1207 (FTS) basically since he commissioned, so his experience is different than that of a 1205.

Thanks in advance.
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On your PHR/SPHR you need to see what you qualify to take, there are many times when you put in your info to get cleared to take an exam that a person will find out they are not qualified to take the exam yet because what they do doesn't align enough with what they need to have. I put in my info and found out I was eligible to take SPHR but went for the PHR given the study classes and pass rate. If you decide to get either look at a class that will prepare you, the overall pass rate is about 50% but that is skewed since those who take a course tend to pass, my class had around 70 people in it and the pass rate for us was around 90%
 
FormerRecruitingGuru

FormerRecruitingGuru

Making Recruiting Great Again
Jones29681 said:
I was told that the 5Dec2016 HR DCO board (FY17 quotas) was cancelled. This was just in passing during our discussion of the HR community, so I might've misheard. I'll definitely defer to you there. My apologies if I'm spreading bad information. If so, I'll take my lashes.
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Nothing has been put out and generally NRC has been good informing the field about any changes and cancellations.

To answer your questions, it really doesn't matter whether you get PHR and SPHR. Having either is considered a HUGE PLUS for the HR community.

As for your final question, it looks like you need to do more homework on the community. HR FTS (1207) officers work hand in hand at times with their SELRES (1205) counterparts. I would ask your OR more about being a 1205, and if so desired finding a 1205 to field more job-specific questions.
 
Jones29681

Jones29681

Member
@RUFiO181 I 100% agree on needing to do more homework. Thanks for the responses. I have a pretty good understanding of the Supply Corps DCO stuff, because a)I've been working on the kit and researching it for a while, and b)there's more info out there on the internet. Probably a lot to do with the size of the two communities. Just trying to soak up what I can about the 1205 designator while I navigate this crazy ride. Thanks for the feedback!

@NavyOffRec Thanks for the suggestion on the study group. I'll look into it once I determine if I'm SPHR eligible.
 
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