Hornet down in VA Beach

[Recovering LSO]

Yup, that's the Navy for you.

Divert to Norfolk and other surrounding airfields (i.e., not really being too inconvenienced)? Because it might not have been the best idea to have dozens more aircraft flying over/around/near the apartment complex that just ate a Hornet?

 

[Brett327]

Nope, Oceana shut down flights ops entirely afterwards. Everyone airborne had to divert. Yup, that's the Navy for you.

That's not the kind of "shut down the base" that we're talking about. Bases do not go on lockdown because of a mishap. It's a moot point now.

 

[helolumpy]

When something like this happens, is it possible for the SNA to lose his chance of getting Winged? Even if its not his fault?

To answer your question, if you do something stupid prior to wings, then you can get booted from flight school. Do not pass go, do not collect $200 (or wings of gold)
Once you get your wings, you go through a Field Naval Aviator Evaluation Board or FNEAB (pronounced Fee-Nab). To read

 

[helolumpy]

Helolumpy, What fatalities in this case? You know something we dont?

My bad, I just meant mishap...

 

[Renegade One]

Yeah....that reply didn't hold up at the Nazi war crime trials...

Well...I surely didn't mean to imply that we should all "click heels and salute" an illegal order...just meant to say "Bear with it and carry on...all things will be revealed."

HAL Pilot: PM me, please, if there's something else you'd like to tell me...

 

[squorch2]

To answer your question, if you do something stupid prior to wings, then you can get booted from flight school.

Note that you'd have to do something willfully wrong, not just stupid student tricks. The best example I can give is the guy who got attrited for overtorquing on his cross country solo. Well, not really - turns out he had cancelled IFR and was doing whifferdills down the runway at Crestview. Oops.

 

[Renegade One]

It's all "open source" and available to read on the web if your "Google-Fu" is strong, so I don't think I'm "out of the box here"...but someone here will have issues...

Looks to me that the crash site is smack dab inside what the NAS Oceana AICUZ planning documents call "APZ 2"...e.g., "Accident Potential Zone 2". Not very well defined, at least during my cursory search, but means "sorta less than APZ 1"...which is where a lot of hot metal can be expected to fall, I imagine...over the course of time. So...the civilian community was "kinda, sorta" informed that "bad things can happen here"...based on literally decades of historical mishap statistics and evidence. I'm sure that meant little or nothing to "property tax-minded" city planners, zoning officials, and/or local real estate developers, nor was it ever explicitly or even implicitly revealed to potential buyers/renters within that area. But now...it's the government's/DON's fault.

 

[helolumpy]

I'm sure that meant little or nothing to "property tax-minded" city planners, zoning officials, and/or local real estate developers, nor was it ever explicitly or even implicitly revealed to potential buyers/renters within that area. But now...it's the government's/DON's fault.

While I am one of the first to blame the city of Va Beach for encroachment... Look at the folks who are complaining about ops at Fentress... You bought a house next to an airport; WTF did you expect to happen?
But when I bought my house in Norfolk, the realators were really up front about the hazzard areas and the areas where the Db caution areas are.
Of course my realator had no idea how the scale of Db's work, so she was ignorant to the fact that a 3 Db increase doubles the volume of the noise, but she had to show us where our house was in relation to the hazzard areas and the noisy areas.

 

[Reconjoe]

Note that you'd have to do something willfully wrong, not just stupid student tricks. The best example I can give is the guy who got attrited for overtorquing on his cross country solo. Well, not really - turns out he had cancelled IFR and was doing whifferdills down the runway at Crestview. Oops.

Or the student solo who came back with two in the cockpit? I feel this could be a thread topic in itself.

 

[MasterBates]

Or the student solo who came back with two in the cockpit? I feel this could be a thread topic in itself.

I was in the RDO shack when those rocket surgeons landed. I was definintly scratching my head on that one.

 

[OscarMyers]

I don't know how the Realtor in Va beach do it, but when we bought our house in Lexington park outside Pax River they damn sure let us know that we were under short final for runway 6. BTW it will be coming up for rent this summer if anyone is interested 4 bed 2 bath cape cod 2 car garage on a half acre /selfless promotion.

 

[squorch2]

Don't you also have to sign stuff saying "I understand I occupy these premises under constant threat of possible death" or something like that?

 

[Criminal]

Or the student solo who came back with two in the cockpit? I feel this could be a thread topic in itself.

Yeah, I think you should start that thread. I'm always delighted to stories like that

 

[707guy]

Ah - ol' Lexington Park...sure has grown up since I was there.

 

[Wingnut172N]

Yeah, I think you should start that thread. I'm always delighted to stories like that

I agree