FBI Selects Glock in 9MM as Next Gen Service Weapon

[Gatordev]

as many times I have holstered my XD I can't see a shirt binding the trigger, I can see someone trying to holster it and having their finger inside the trigger guard like any other weapon.

You live a privileged life. It's very easy for it to happen if someone's shirt gets untucked and the holster sits at hip level. Standing at a bench, static at the range, I agree, it's not a huge issue, but in a more dynamic environment, it can be a concern...especially for those that have an "expanded" mid-section and a shorter shirt.

I could maybe see a person drawing quickly and not getting a firm grip, but if they don't have a firm grip odds are they won't have a good aim either, going through a class should prevent this improper draw and shoot.

This exactly my point...when you draw it, you may not have a firm grip. Aim isn't the issue, as I'm talking about someone being right up on you. This may not be a "thing" for everyone, I'm just saying that with my hand, I can reproduce the issue some of the time.

Now that I think about it, it may be less of an issue if you're grabbing it from the 4 o'clock, just by sheer mechanics. Maybe that's where the disconnect is. I'm trying it from the 3 o'clock position.

 

[exNavyOffRec]

You live a privileged life. It's very easy for it to happen if someone's shirt gets untucked and the holster sits at hip level. Standing at a bench, static at the range, I agree, it's not a huge issue, but in a more dynamic environment, it can be a concern...especially for those that have an "expanded" mid-section and a shorter shirt.



This exactly my point...when you draw it, you may not have a firm grip. Aim isn't the issue, as I'm talking about someone being right up on you. This may not be a "thing" for everyone, I'm just saying that with my hand, I can reproduce the issue some of the time.

Now that I think about it, it may be less of an issue if you're grabbing it from the 4 o'clock, just by sheer mechanics. Maybe that's where the disconnect is. I'm trying it from the 3 o'clock position.

You have described my body type and shirt selection very well, have we met or are you looking at my online dating profile? . It might be luck or maybe just the flow of how I holster my weapon? Maybe the type of holster? I use the FOBUS holster I have also used the blackhawk but prefer FOBUS.

I took a look at where I tend to carry and it is more about 4 o'clock so that could be why I don't encounter that.

 

[Gatordev]

It might be luck or maybe just the flow of how I holster my weapon?

Could be. It could also be that you're aware of how you holster and thus are just safer. I've seen others that aren't so aware, which usually adds to the uncomfortableness.

 

[exNavyOffRec]

Could be. It could also be that you're aware of how you holster and thus are just safer. I've seen others that aren't so aware, which usually adds to the uncomfortableness.

I would say your statement is accurate.

One of my firearms instructor said finding a holster that you are comfortable with is just as important as finding a weapon you are comfortable with, I can't tell you how many holsters I tried before finding the FOBUS that I really like.

 

[Hair Warrior]

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Can USN personnel carry (concealed or open) on installations yet? I know USAF and OSD were looking into this in the wake of shootings (e.g. Chattanooga, Navy Yard).

 

[BigRed389]

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Can USN personnel carry (concealed or open) on installations yet? I know USAF and OSD were looking into this in the wake of shootings (e.g. Chattanooga, Navy Yard).

Nope. Wouldn't hold my breath on it either.

 

[nittany03]

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Can USN personnel carry (concealed or open) on installations yet? I know USAF and OSD were looking into this in the wake of shootings (e.g. Chattanooga, Navy Yard).

I can't recall if it's been finalized yet, but there was talk of allowing the COs of NOSCs that aren't on a military base to allow people to go through a PQS and carry a weapon on premises. But in that case, it would be a Navy qualification course to allow the issue of a Navy-owned sidearm, for people who essentially have "security guard" as their collateral duty during the day. Then they check the weapon back in, and go home.

The chances of anyone ever allowing the carry of personally owned sidearms on base are precisely zero.

 

[exNavyOffRec]

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Can USN personnel carry (concealed or open) on installations yet? I know USAF and OSD were looking into this in the wake of shootings (e.g. Chattanooga, Navy Yard).

ha ha, we have low paid, marginally trained security officers to guard our bases I doubt that will ever change.

 

[A7Dave]

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Can USN personnel carry (concealed or open) on installations yet? I know USAF and OSD were looking into this in the wake of shootings (e.g. Chattanooga, Navy Yard).

So, you're not in the Navy, yet? Are you entering soon? You use a lot of interesting acronyms. OSD. No one in the Fleet would use that term.

 

[kmac]

So, you're not in the Navy, yet? Are you entering soon? You use a lot of interesting acronyms. OSD. No one in the Fleet would use that term.

You don't use OSD? It's not that uncommon.

 

[squorch2]

OSD is pretty common, depending on how much of a wonk you are.

 

[707guy]

OSD is pretty common, depending on how much of a wonk you are.

Read it in an email and had to look it up...learn something new everyday.

 

[kmac]

Yeah so when I was OPSO we had to get OSD approval for some air show / fly over stuff during sequestration. Come to think of it, that flyover of Coronado for the memorial service of a student naval aviator required OSD approval.

 

[nittany03]

So, you're not in the Navy, yet? Are you entering soon? You use a lot of interesting acronyms. OSD. No one in the Fleet would use that term.

He's getting a 12-year head start on staff purgatory.

 

[Hair Warrior]

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He's getting a 12-year head start on staff purgatory.

Sadly, too true. I've already been doing it for 7+ yrs as a DoD ctr.