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Failed Depth Perception...

delta215

Member
I just reviewed the paperwork from my MEPS physical. I am perplexed, to say the least...

In box 67-Depth Perception I have a big whopping "PASSED" written in the field. This field does request a score, but I have no score in the box. Just PASSED and something illegible next to passed that looks like a C or O/0.

Does N3M want an accompnaying score with the word PASSED? If so, it would seem that N3M "failed" me for depth perception on a technicality (either illegible score/lack thereof) and thus I spent $100 on an eye exam that I otherwise didn't need. I passed the civilian depth perception test with 25 seconds of arc.

Frustrating to say the least. I wonder how many of us out there have been a victim of this lack of oversight at MEPS?
 

pilot_man

Ex-Rhino driver
pilot
I would say it is more to the lack of time a person is given at MEPS and the lack of sleep, the reason I say this is the number of people that fail at MEPS, pass a civilian test, then fail at OCS is higher then the guys that pass at MEPS, the common factor between MEPS and OCS is lack of sleep. The machines at MEPS are cleaned and calibrated every year.

Clean shitty equipment is still shitty equipment. If a test is regularly giving false negatives, no matter what kind of sleep is involved, then it is crap and needs to be done away with. MEPS is a sausage machine with people who don't care about the applicants and the rest of their lives.
 

Spekkio

He bowls overhand.
I failed depth perception at MEPS. Just passed it on my 5 yr physical. Test is bunk but nothing you can do about it but try to pass it unless you become head of Navy medical.
 

MGoBrew11

Well-Known Member
pilot
In box 67-Depth Perception I have a big whopping "PASSED" written in the field. This field does request a score, but I have no score in the box. Just PASSED and something illegible next to passed that looks like a C or O/0.

Does N3M want an accompnaying score with the word PASSED? If so, it would seem that N3M "failed" me for depth perception on a technicality (either illegible score/lack thereof) and thus I spent $100 on an eye exam that I otherwise didn't need. I passed the civilian depth perception test with 25 seconds of arc.


I think you still needed the civilian test. PASSED C just means that you passed through the 3rd row, or row C. I believe you need either a PASSED D or PASSED E to be good for SNA.

MEPS said you passed because you passed the general military requirements, which is all MEPS screens for. N3M said you failed because you did not meet the requirements for SNA on the MEPS machine. Good to see you passed at the civilians.
 

delta215

Member
I think you still needed the civilian test. PASSED C just means that you passed through the 3rd row, or row C. I believe you need either a PASSED D or PASSED E to be good for SNA.

MEPS said you passed because you passed the general military requirements, which is all MEPS screens for. N3M said you failed because you did not meet the requirements for SNA on the MEPS machine. Good to see you passed at the civilians.

Thanks for the clarification. IIRC a pass D is needed for SNA.
 

exNavyOffRec

Well-Known Member
MEPS is a sausage machine with people who don't care about the applicants and the rest of their lives.

True, and I would be more likely to say the MEPS test is crap if I had seen many cases where a person failed at MEPS then passed civilian test, but I didn't, and I reviewed nearly all the physicals that were done on the applicants our NRD processed, and we actually had more of an issue with MEPS not administering depth perception and guys having to go back.

Maybe it is a combination of the person, the examiner, and the equipment.
 

BlackAce

VT-9 Trying to sick less everyday...trying
Sorry to revive an older thread, but what did you get from the civilian eye doctor to give to the Navy? I took a civilian depth perception test and was wondering how I submit this information. Is there a document I need from the Navy or does the eye doctor have something official to submit?
 

Tycho_Brohe

Well-Known Member
pilot
Contributor
Sorry to revive an older thread, but what did you get from the civilian eye doctor to give to the Navy? I took a civilian depth perception test and was wondering how I submit this information. Is there a document I need from the Navy or does the eye doctor have something official to submit?
I just asked my doc to write up a letter saying my DP was fine, listing the results of the test (9/9), he put in something like "no defects noted" and signed it, and I just gave that to my recruiter. You should ask your OR if there's anything else that specifically needs to go in there, just to make sure.
 

spaniard87

Dec 2012 SNA Pro Rec
I just asked my doc to write up a letter saying my DP was fine, listing the results of the test (9/9), he put in something like "no defects noted" and signed it, and I just gave that to my recruiter. You should ask your OR if there's anything else that specifically needs to go in there, just to make sure.

I did the same. I believe the recruiter sends it to NAMI. Then you'll do a DP test again at OCS and then again at Nami, and then again every year. My recommendation is to drink plenty of water the day before to keep yourself hydrated and eyes moisturized. Worked for me.
 

Tycho_Brohe

Well-Known Member
pilot
Contributor
I did the same. I believe the recruiter sends it to NAMI. Then you'll do a DP test again at OCS and then again at Nami, and then again every year. My recommendation is to drink plenty of water the day before to keep yourself hydrated and eyes moisturized. Worked for me.
Sleep, too. I was running on a whopping half-hour of sleep when I went to MEPS. That's probably one of the reasons I only got a Pass B. Plus, you really don't wanna spend six hours at MEPS when you're sleep-deprived.
 

exNavyOffRec

Well-Known Member
I did the same. I believe the recruiter sends it to NAMI. Then you'll do a DP test again at OCS and then again at Nami, and then again every year. My recommendation is to drink plenty of water the day before to keep yourself hydrated and eyes moisturized. Worked for me.

The NRD will send it to N3M, they will make a preliminary "yes" for aviation but will defer to NAMI for final determination (this is those checks you get at OCS and such)
 

Tycho_Brohe

Well-Known Member
pilot
Contributor
The NRD will send it to N3M, they will make a preliminary "yes" for aviation but will defer to NAMI for final determination (this is those checks you get at OCS and such)
...leading inexorably to the existence of the "Nami whammy," unfortunately.
 

BlackAce

VT-9 Trying to sick less everyday...trying
Thanks for all the help. After many years of lurking and learning, I've finally submitted my package and got cleared through N3M. Now the waiting game.
 
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