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Europe under extreme duress

Discussion in 'War Zone' started by Randy Daytona, Sep 22, 2015.

  1. Randy Daytona

    Randy Daytona I want rock n roll - yes I do. Super Moderator None

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    Natural gas is certainly more difficult to transport than oil, but considering the infrastructure that is currently building out to support it, it looks like LNG has a future. Doesn't hurt that Poland probably wants to have an alternative source of energy and not rely on Germany or Russia.
     
  2. Flash

    Flash SEVAL/ECMO Super Moderator None Contributor

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    Again, there is hope and reality. I hope that the Baltics and Poland can move further away from depending on Russia for their natural gas, like Lithuania has recently tried to do, but it would take investment and commitment that is difficult for most countries to follow through on.
     
  3. Randy Daytona

    Randy Daytona I want rock n roll - yes I do. Super Moderator None

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    Thought this was an interesting combination.

    Donald Trump and NATO: Why His Silence on Article 5 Is a Big Deal
    http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/tr...to-why-his-silence-article-5-big-deal-n765011

    REPORT
    Germany Is Quietly Building a European Army Under Its Command
    Berlin is using a bland name to obscure a dramatic shift in its approach to defense: integrating brigades from smaller countries into the Bundeswehr.

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/05/22/germany-is-quietly-building-a-european-army-under-its-command/
     
  4. nittany03

    nittany03 FUBIJAR Super Moderator None Contributor None

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    I'd argue that the future of Article 5 was a thorny subject even pre-Trump. We expanded NATO post-Cold War with little thought to whether the voters of NATO countries would support going to the mat for the likes of the Baltic states. This Pew survey from 2015 showed that a majority of French, Germans, and Italians did NOT think their countries should get involved in the event Russia attacked a NATO ally. Only in the US and Canada did a majority support honoring Article 5.

    I don't think NATO is at all useless, but that's a problem.
     
  5. Uncle Fester

    Uncle Fester Robot Pimp Super Moderator None Contributor

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    I imagine they'd think differently if Russia was attacking France, Germany, or Italy...
     
  6. Recovering LSO

    Recovering LSO Suck Less Super Moderator Contributor None

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    Everything is cool....

     
  7. RadicalDude

    RadicalDude Social Justice Warlord None Contributor

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    Remember when Obama wore a tan suit?? Or kind of bowed to the Saudi King. Scandalous!!!
     

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