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entry grade credit?

Griz882

Well-Known Member
pilot
#16
Don’t expect any service to actually follow the rules and regulations they created. Those are tools for punishing, not administrating. :confused:
 

NavyOffRec

Well-Known Member
#17
Fair, but what's his alternative COA given the OCM endorsed his package and BCNR said sorry, outside of our scope?
I would say he has no COA, his recruiter screwed up by thinking that he could come in as anything but an O-1, then NRC found the error and that is why they said take O-1 or nothing, he voluntarily accepted that O-1 position and now he wants to go back and say "but I should have..........", sorry but a choice was made and needs to be lived with.
 
#18
I would say he has no COA, his recruiter screwed up by thinking that he could come in as anything but an O-1, then NRC found the error and that is why they said take O-1 or nothing, he voluntarily accepted that O-1 position and now he wants to go back and say "but I should have..........", sorry but a choice was made and needs to be lived with.
I agree I could have refused the commission, but after going through a year of paperwork, medical exams, multiple interviews, gathering references, and driving 6hr to Norfolk to meet the recruiter, it's not that easy to just say "you know what, no thanks." I didn't find out my situation was outside the norm until my first AT when I finally met officers in my community. They pushed me to ask for a rank correction.
 
#19
I'm not sure these regulations apply the way you think if you came in through the Navy Recruiting process. Can you at least address that? If you came in by some other means, maybe these regulations apply, although the first you mention I think is referring more to credit of time in service vice rank. I.e. One should not lose time making it more distant to obtain retirement or be paid as O1 less than 2 years. if you have previous military time.

The rank is addressed by the program authorization, so that is the lead authority. Again, unless you came in another way.
I came in as a DCO - but with prior active duty service - not as an inter service transfer. That counts as an "original appointment" per DoDI 1310.02, which means DoDI 1312.03 applies, and that states:
“The amount of entry grade credit will equal the sum of the prior commissioned service credit and the constructive service credit a person is given.”
 
#20
I agree I could have refused the commission, but after going through a year of paperwork, medical exams, multiple interviews, gathering references, and driving 6hr to Norfolk to meet the recruiter, it's not that easy to just say "you know what, no thanks." I didn't find out my situation was outside the norm until my first AT when I finally met officers in my community. They pushed me to ask for a rank correction.
Outside the norm in relation to? I'm pretty sure if they came in as you through the same method, they also started as O1. Are you saying you met another prior other service O4 on AT that came into EDO via NRC and was granted a higher rank upon accepting commission?

If this is the case, that person would be the best resource to seek out how to navigate the process for you to do the same.
 

Hair Warrior

JO 1835
Contributor
#21
As Rufio stated, the program authorization does not allow for direct commission above the rank of ENS for that particular designator. Different PAs for different talent pools and human capital rules.
 

RUFiO181

Making Recruiting Great Again
#22
I would say he has no COA, his recruiter screwed up by thinking that he could come in as anything but an O-1, then NRC found the error and that is why they said take O-1 or nothing, he voluntarily accepted that O-1 position and now he wants to go back and say "but I should have..........", sorry but a choice was made and needs to be lived with.
This reminds me of a time where I got referred a kid who wanted to be a Pilot. He graduated from kings point and was commissioned into the navy as a reserve SSO (those who spend time on MSC ships). The kid was a referral from RDML Hughes (then-CNRC) and RMDL Meier (then-PERS 4) and got told submit him as if he's a civilian off the streets. Okay, easy. We complete and submit everything and within a day of his application submitted get a "WTF" call from CNRC. We argue back and forth and eventually this goes to the Aviation OCM who says "no-go" and refers back to the PA.
 
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