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E-2 Weapons School

Discussion in 'Naval Flight Officer (NFO)' started by NFOHopeful19, Apr 19, 2017.

  1. NFOHopeful19

    NFOHopeful19 Formal Parade Veteran

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    Hey all,

    Just out of curiosity, is there a preferred weapons school for the VAW community? I know that there is the TOPGUN Controller Syllabus and CAEWWS, but I couldn't find a whole lot on either school outside of courses offered/a general description of the schools and their objective.
     
  2. Jim123

    Jim123 molding (warping) the future of naval aviation None

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    It's called Hogwarts.

    (You probably think I'm joking.)
     
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  3. Uncle Fester

    Uncle Fester Robot Pimp Super Moderator None Contributor

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    How do you mean by 'preferred'?
     
  4. NFOHopeful19

    NFOHopeful19 Formal Parade Veteran

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    Is one better for career advancement than the other one or do both get you to WTI and they look the same on paper? I know TOPGUN is mostly focused on air-to-air, and CAEWWS covers numerous courses, namely AMCC. Would CAEWWS be favored because it covers more of the VAW missions or am I comparing apples and oranges WRT TOPGUN (Controller Syllabus) and CAEWWS?
     
  5. MIDNJAC

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    I think you are comparing apples to oranges. The two courses aren't mutually exclusive........most CAEWWS grads also got a TOPGUN AIC patch during their first tour. Different syllabus, purpose, and end state, as well as a completely different NAWDC department.
     
  6. Uncle Fester

    Uncle Fester Robot Pimp Super Moderator None Contributor

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    Neither really has any impact on your career prospects. There's a dozen reasons why you might get tapped to go, or not, to a weapons school that have nothing to do with you. And pilots and FOs are lumped together for promotion/screen boards and E-2 pilots go to AMCC but not TG.

    Really? When I was in the fleet it was unusual to be dual-patched. There was only one in my last squadron. TG is such a long course (thus also expensive) that the squadrons usually didn't send guys unless they really had to.
     
  7. cfam

    cfam A pilot is a pilot. An NFO is something else. None Contributor

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    Not sure how common it is now, but a decent amount of the CAEWWS staff is dual-patched. We did an integration event with the current HEWTI class today, and it looked like a 50/50 split between AIC patch wearers and non patch wearers. I'll ask tomorrow during our next event.
     
  8. MIDNJAC

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    I should caveat that by saying that the only CAEWWS patches I knew were at the weapon school. Most of them had previously received TOPGUN AIC patches. Mileage may vary across the fleet.
     
  9. Uncle Fester

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    Oh, if you mean dual-patched CAEWWS staff, that's not that surprising. I thought you meant in a typical squadron.
     
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  10. cfam

    cfam A pilot is a pilot. An NFO is something else. None Contributor

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    I asked a couple of the guys on CAEWWS staff, and they said it's less unusual to have dual patched fleet guys than it used to be. From what they / you were saying, I gather it was extremely uncommon in the past. From their perspective, squadrons are getting more aggressive about pushing JOs through the AIC course.

    The current CAEWWS class has 3 TG AIC patches out of 8 total students, which they said is pretty typical.
     

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