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DUI arrest but not charged

phrogdriver

More humble than you would understand
pilot
Super Moderator
As with most things of this nature, there's the perfect world of rainbow-farting unicorns and there's the real soul-crushing world we actually inhabit.

Talk to guys not long ago, and you'll get all sorts of "I can't believe they let me in with ___" stories. Pot waivers for O's weren't uncommon, for example. If they were otherwise well qualified, they got in. That's not because things were better or worse, just that supply and demand for officer candidates were aligned much differently. Now that we're in a drawdown AND the economy is so-so, the services can be more selective.

You can argue that they should be more in tune with the "whole person" concept, etc, but simply put, if you have a pile of 100 applications, all pretty good, and 10 slots, then your first task is finding some easy discriminators to winnow down your in-box. X SAT--check. X GPA--check. No arrests---check. Sure, that arrest may be no big deal in the big picture, but if there are 10 other guys with about the same qualifications that don't require a ton of work to verify their bonafides, what do you think an OSO or board is going to do?

It may not be "right," but neither are a lot of things. It's just the way things ARE. I wish that each application could have a case worker personally marshall it through the application process and explain each applicant's whole life story in context, but that's not going to happen. Big institutions use chainsaws to do brain surgery. That's how they roll. Some otherwise well-deserving people don't get their big break--that's how it rolls.
 

AGonxAV8R

HAMPS
pilot
I'm sorry, but I find it amusing that you choose to stereotype all campus police departments based upon your experience at one specific campus P.D. Your experience is your own, and does not represent all police departments, despite what you might have experienced. You proved my point in your posts, most of the people are arrested for a reason. If there's a pattern of arrests, (regardless of convictions), it could be a good indicator of potential trouble for the candidate/recruit down the road. Despite your assertions, police officers are held accountable for their actions. They report to someone, just like every one of us does.

By and large, arrests are justified. Is our system perfect? Hell no, but it's what we've got.

From my personal experience of several different Universities PDs, they all seemed to try to get kids in trouble more so than the local PDs. I always felt like some of the guys tried to display some sort of power over the students. Granted not all of the officers were this way, but a lot of them were.

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Recovering LSO

Suck Less
pilot
Contributor
I've wasted enough energy on this crap. I will just learn to say "yes sir" and nod my head up and down, even when big Navy is dead wrong. Just like I say "yes dear" to my wife. Now who's got some Cool-aid to drink?

To be honest, i'm not even sure what you're so bitter/sarcastic/pissed about WRT this thread. you really can't argue with this:

As with most things of this nature, there's the perfect world of rainbow-farting unicorns and there's the real soul-crushing world we actually inhabit.

Talk to guys not long ago, and you'll get all sorts of "I can't believe they let me in with ___" stories. Pot waivers for O's weren't uncommon, for example. If they were otherwise well qualified, they got in. That's not because things were better or worse, just that supply and demand for officer candidates were aligned much differently. Now that we're in a drawdown AND the economy is so-so, the services can be more selective.

You can argue that they should be more in tune with the "whole person" concept, etc, but simply put, if you have a pile of 100 applications, all pretty good, and 10 slots, then your first task is finding some easy discriminators to winnow down your in-box. X SAT--check. X GPA--check. No arrests---check. Sure, that arrest may be no big deal in the big picture, but if there are 10 other guys with about the same qualifications that don't require a ton of work to verify their bonafides, what do you think an OSO or board is going to do?

It may not be "right," but neither are a lot of things. It's just the way things ARE. I wish that each application could have a case worker personally marshall it through the application process and explain each applicant's whole life story in context, but that's not going to happen. Big institutions use chainsaws to do brain surgery. That's how they roll. Some otherwise well-deserving people don't get their big break--that's how it rolls.
 
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