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Aviation Working Greens

What woud you wear?


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RedFive

Well-Known Member
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Like... where are you planning on wearing these? To the O’Club that no one wants to drink at? On a no-fly day when you’d rather wear a flight suit? On a ship where it will get dirty? Tailhook?
Why you gotta be so negative all the time, man? Flight suits piss off SWOs. Two-piece flight suits make them lose their shit. I would love to roll in AWGs once in a while. In any case, it was/would be optional wear, so all you haters can stick it!
 

RadicalDude

Social Justice Warlord
Why you gotta be so negative all the time, man? Flight suits piss off SWOs. Two-piece flight suits make them lose their shit. I would love to roll in AWGs once in a while. In any case, it was/would be optional wear, so all you haters can stick it!
Yeah but where? When?

I’m not being g negative for negativity’s sake here. Only times I’ve worn a uniform other than a brown or green nomex bag in the last six years was a CoC (summer white), funeral (SDBs), checking in to a new command (Khakis), and fucking boat duty on my first deployment (NWUs—second deployment we wore flightsuits).

When was I gonna wear AWGs? Why would I want to spend possibly hundreds of dollars on another SDB like uniform? Is this some weird non-tacair thing I fail to understand—do you guys have mandatory non-flightsuit days or something?
 

Pags

Well-Known Member
pilot
Is this some weird non-tacair thing I fail to understand—do you guys have mandatory non-flightsuit days or something?
This was common practice in my first squadron. On training days khakis were the uniform of the day. Khakis were also required for standing duty. When at Pax khakis used to be required for meetings off base (of which there were many because there's limited conference rooms on base) prior to the rules changing that allowed flight suits out in town. As ship's company there were MANY cases were flight suits were not authorized.
 

wink

VS NFO. Blue and Gold Off. Former Recruiter.
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Because it only take one elephant in the puzzle palace to declare your flight suits 24/7 over. In those good ol by gone days we wore wash khaki around the ship and squadron spaces on the beach. Going to a one week school, khaki. Going to a wing conference, khaki. Massed trainimg in the base theater, khaki. Having another uniquely aviation option was nice. Some wore it, most not. Hurt no one. It was just words of authorization in a document.
 

ChuckMK23

Former H-46 Driver
pilot
Nice thread resurrection! I remember checking into my first squadron on the East Coast, November, Winter Working Blue was the only authorized UOD. We went to kahkis a year later and found out CNT’s were suck in Norfolk fall/winter/spring.

Nazi flight suit policies prevailed at the time thanks to the having CO’s who grew up in the 1970’s Navy. I avoided it of course by avoiding FOD walkdown and hiding in maintenance control, driving to work in my flight suit as any good JOPA champion should - then volunteering every day as FCF copilot as a new nugget. My alibi complete to never wear CNT fabric against my sensitive skin!

Even though I was lableled a slacking non ground job performer, I none the less was always #1 or #2 on flight time for a given month that lead to getting orders to the HT’s while my dutiful khakis wearing peers drew staff/pg school/NROTC orders:)
 

webmaster

The Grass is Greener!
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Maybe you lament for have things have changed for the worse (easy to do from the cockpit of a civilian airliner) but I don’t grieve for any bygone romantic era in naval aviation, believe me.
Oh no. Not at all. My friend the torch has been passed for quite a few years by me. I miss the comraderie of being on active duty but I made my choice and retired. So much is perspective and how priorities change.

I applaud those that are seeking a commission and those that are serving past their commitments to make their goals a reality. Also happy for those that get out whether it’s to “The Show” or the myriad other jobs friends of mine have gone to with startups, traveling, Fortune 500 companies. Etc. As long as you aren’t tied to a geographic location it’s amazing the paths Naval Aviators have available to them post career.

Most of all I’m proud over the last couple years of the current Naval Aviators that are striving to make the service better. Change from within.

Side note, I find it amusing that you deride/slander my current profession “easy to do from the cockpit of a civilian airliner” .... why’s that? I worked very hard to get here. But would it be any different if I chose to pursue other career paths?
 

RadicalDude

Social Justice Warlord
It’s funny we lament how this have changed for the worse. But you jump shit on current guys and gals maybe trying to take back culture of a “by gone” era?

Hmmm.
I find it amusing that you deride/slander my current profession “easy to do from the cockpit of a civilian airliner” .... why’s that? I worked very hard to get here. But would it be any different if I chose to pursue other career paths?
I never derided your current profession (not in this thread anyways). I said it was easy to pass judgment about the rosy old bygone days when you’re not in the seevice and no longer have to deal with all that entails.

The internet is full of retirees and separatees pining for the good old days...
 

wink

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I never derided your current profession (not in this thread anyways). I said it was easy to pass judgment about the rosy old bygone days when you’re not in the seevice and no longer have to deal with all that entails.

The internet is full of retirees and separatees pining for the good old days...
Just curious, nothing besides the flying hours you think the good ol days had to offer, understanding you weren't there first hand. Some folks, think that everything new is better and no one that came before their time could have possibly had a better idea. Progress does not mean having to ignore the wisdom of the past.
 

RadicalDude

Social Justice Warlord
Just curious, nothing besides the flying hours you think the good ol days had to offer, understanding you weren't there first hand. Some folks, think that everything new is better and no one that came before their time could have possibly had a better idea. Progress does not mean having to ignore the wisdom of the past.
Yeah quite frankly I could do away with piss tests and bring back sweet sideburns, but I think the notion of some romantic, less dysfunctional, mythic bygone navy of old is largely that—mythical and romantic.

I’m a fourth generation sailor—we’ve had someone on active duty continually since the 20s. My father, uncles, grandfather, great grandfather—they didn’t pine for the olden times.

I’m curious what exactly it is you think the modern navy is missing? Not enough sepia? Hell the old timers just spent a page complaining about hiding in maintenance control and sneaking off base so you could wear a flight suit... doesn’t sound that sweet to me.

The “wisdom” of the past... like shooting down an airliner? Almost starting thermonuclear war over a fucking blockade? Fabricating a torpedo boat attack? This organization is a faceless bureaucratic machine, it eats individuals and keeps on chugging along with the momentum of a billion dollar defense industry.
 
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FrankTheTank

Professional Pot Stirrer
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Yeah quite frankly I could do away with piss tests and bring back sweet sideburns, but I think the notion of some romantic, less dysfunctional, mythic bygone navy of old is largely that—mythical and romantic.

I’m a fourth generation sailor—we’ve had someone on active duty continually since the 20s. My father, uncles, grandfather, great grandfather—they didn’t pine for the olden times.

I’m curious what exactly it is you think the modern navy is missing? Not enough sepia? Hell the old timers just spent a page complaining about hiding in maintenance control and sneaking off base so you could wear a flight suit... doesn’t sound that sweet to me.

The “wisdom” of the past... like shooting down an airliner? Almost starting thermonuclear war over a fucking blockade? Fabricating a torpedo boat attack? This organization is a faceless bureaucratic machine, it eats individuals and keeps on chugging along with the momentum of a billion dollar defense industry.
If you hate it so much, why don’t you get out?
 

RadicalDude

Social Justice Warlord
If you hate it so much, why don’t you get out?
Where did I say I hated it, Frank? You do understand the difference between blind loyalty, critical appraisal, and hating, right?

It’s just realistic to acknowledge the Navy, or any large organization, for what it is. It’s a fucking faceless bureaucratic machine at the nd of the day. Get what you need, say fuck the man when you can, enjoy it when it’s fun, but you’re only gonna run yourself ragged trying to make the navy conform to some romantic vision of what it used to be. It doesn’t care about you beyond filling billets and checking boxes.

Hopefully you realize fedex is the same—the minute autonomous systems advance to the point that you become anything but a profit-maker... they’ll dump you for a $250 microprocessor, and tech support in India.

On a side note, Frank, I’ve got a few boxes from Amazon coming this week. Please keep them safe and dry, buddy!
 
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scoolbubba

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Never wore anything other than a flight suit. By the time khakis were mandated for duty, I was off the dirty thirty.

We stand duty in type 3s, but I don’t stand much duty no mo.

I have AWGs, mostly for posterity’s sake. Probably the same reason I have a sword, come to think about it.

Same for reading naval history. Do I expect to ever need to cross the T or understand the weather gage? Probably not. Does it tie me to the giants whose shoulders we as a service stand on? Maybe.

But fuck tradition, because progress.
 

RadicalDude

Social Justice Warlord
But fuck tradition, because progress.
If only there was a famous quote about naval tradition and it’s usefulness to use here.... maybe from a famous naval leader...

You’re such a naval history buff, what with your NS100 references to crossing the T and weather gages, I’m sure you could find it!
 
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