As I remember it when you sign the epsq paperwork there is a disclaimer saying you give permission to access all medical records......
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anti-depressants...a bad word?
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I worked a while at a company whose primary job was HIPAA compliance. The HIPAA itself has exceptions for just about everything. The only site I can find that puts it in plain english is the u of miami, (http://privacy.med.miami.edu/glossary/xd_military_veterans.htm) but the relevant document is 45 CFR 164.512(k). Short version: the military can look at and/or use information of servicemembers "deemed necessary by appropriate military command authorities". There are similar exceptions for the FBI and their designated reps. So yes, they do need a signature to get your health records. That signature is on your application for a commission, enlistment contract, etc. (Or as pcola noted, your EPSQ)
Administratively, how do they (or myself for that matter, because I'll likely have a long battle for a waiver) go about doing that? Are my aggregate medical records locked secretly away somewhere, or do they (I) have to go doctor by doctor looking for them?
How comprehensive ARE medical records? Do they include every little antibiotic you've ever been prescribed? What kind of detail is involved?
How comprehensive ARE medical records? Do they include every little antibiotic you've ever been prescribed? What kind of detail is involved?
Just Say No
I was on recruiter's assistance for a while...and I learned one thing, always say no. They can never prove you wrong....never, unless you crack of course and go back and say yes....they you are a fraud! They have no way whatsoever to pull your civilian medical record, and if they did, you could just go to your doctor and say, "give me my medical record," and burn it. Now if you have steel plates, screws, or some crazy disease, they will figure that out at MEPS and DQ you anyway. Enjoy the ride.
I was on recruiter's assistance for a while...and I learned one thing, always say no. They can never prove you wrong....never, unless you crack of course and go back and say yes....they you are a fraud! They have no way whatsoever to pull your civilian medical record, and if they did, you could just go to your doctor and say, "give me my medical record," and burn it. Now if you have steel plates, screws, or some crazy disease, they will figure that out at MEPS and DQ you anyway. Enjoy the ride.
This is bad gouge and bad advice. With integrity like that, I can't say I'm surprised that you're a Marine. Ever been to Iwakuni?
Brett
You're not too bright. This may have been how the recruiter who you assisted did things, but that doesn't make it right. This is downright stupid and I'm half tempted to give you some time off from the forums. I'll let you slide with a warning only because of your service in Iraq. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you just don't know any better and the recruiter you worked for was a jackass who trained you wrong. Keep that kind of nonsense out of here.
MasterBates
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They do get your record. You have to agree to let them check you out when security clearences are involved.
NEG REP for advising applicants to lie/omit information.
NEG REP for advising applicants to lie/omit information.
My OSO caught me in a loop with that one. I admitted to the antidepressants on the ESPQ. I told him everything. He called me back a day later, "there might be some trouble with that so I'm giving you the option to redo your paper work in case you want to change some of the information." I answered hesitantly, well ok." He responds with something like, I don't want to push you one way or the other, I say I need to think about it and boom. I got myself into a predicament and I don't know how that's going to look when my info gets submitted to the selection board. Makes me wonder if they now question my integrity.
As they should, and your recruiter's too.
HarveyBirdman
Okay, So whats the Speed of Dark?
Errr, All this "record pulling" stuff has me wondering too.
Does my old baseball injury show up? painkillers for dislocated shoulders?
And the most dangerous one of all..
Arrested one time when I was 17 for something stupid, was let go because it was the first time I got in trouble with the law. Does that pop up?
Does my old baseball injury show up? painkillers for dislocated shoulders?
And the most dangerous one of all..
Arrested one time when I was 17 for something stupid, was let go because it was the first time I got in trouble with the law. Does that pop up?
As long as you've already been upfront about all that, then no worries. If not....well, I guess only time will tell.
My OSO submitted my ESPQ to MEPS yesterday and the anti-depressants + asthma shot up all sorts of red flags and they sent it back. Even though I've been extremely active with running and such for over a year and been off the anti-depressants for 4, they still want more. I can understand that they are just covering their backs, but I went through quite a bit of hell just to get the ESPQ submitted. Letters and statements and stuff from doctors, and they still want more.
The point of this post.
Get in as early as possible. Get your info submitted as early as possible, especially if you have this kind of stuff on your medical records. You will more than likely have to be waivered, and it WILL take time. I don't think I'm gonna get to go to the PLC increments this summer. I'm going to fight MEPS to the bitter end.
The point of this post.
Get in as early as possible. Get your info submitted as early as possible, especially if you have this kind of stuff on your medical records. You will more than likely have to be waivered, and it WILL take time. I don't think I'm gonna get to go to the PLC increments this summer. I'm going to fight MEPS to the bitter end.