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Sculpin

"Nobody ever changed the world on 40 hours a week"
Good on them. In my opinion no one is better about standards and discipline than the Marines. I heard Cruz was also accused of adultery and theft, but I think those charges were dropped. Regardless, she's going to find any good-sized civilian company worth its salt will also have fraternization policies. I've seen a lot of good folks get fired over them.
 

ChuckMK23

Former H-46 Driver
pilot
Good on them. In my opinion no one is better about standards and discipline than the Marines. I heard Cruz was also accused of adultery and theft, but I think those charges were dropped. Regardless, she's going to find any good-sized civilian company worth its salt will also have fraternization policies. I've seen a lot of good folks get fired over them.
No - Corporate / Global companies have rightly abandoned the whole concept that “fraternization” is a thing. Doesn’t exist anymore in the US or global workplace. You are greatly free to have a relationship with whomever you wish on mutual terms.
 

Sculpin

"Nobody ever changed the world on 40 hours a week"
No - Corporate / Global companies have rightly abandoned the whole concept that “fraternization” is a thing. Doesn’t exist anymore in the US or global workplace. You are greatly free to have a relationship with whomever you wish on mutual terms.
I agree lots of places likely won't care, but having worked at even very liberal multinational corporations (that go to absurd lengths to demonstrate how liberal/diverse/inclusive they are) with lots of colleagues at said companies and friends in others, people for better or worse can still get fired over it, especially when it's a subordinate-superior relationship and even sometimes more generally within the same team/department. In some cases, all it took was a complaint to HR, and the people in the relationship were told to go home while being outprocessed, no questions asked and no opportunity for a defense. But to be fair, I've seen it cause unnecessary workplace drama and badly hurt productivity especially when it's happening within the same team (including one of my past teams so as you can imagine everyone was very relieved when HR took action), so I'm with the Marines and with my company and likeminded companies on this one.

Edit: How could I forget that Intel's CEO (as most people may know, this is a very liberal Silicon Valley multinational tech company) was just a few months ago strongly pushed to resign due to the company's fraternization policies? https://www.theguardian.com/technol...-brian-krzanich-company-relationship-employee
 

Brett327

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No - Corporate / Global companies have rightly abandoned the whole concept that “fraternization” is a thing. Doesn’t exist anymore in the US or global workplace. You are greatly free to have a relationship with whomever you wish on mutual terms.
This statement is demonstrably false. You must be smoking some pretty good weed recently. You’re off your fucking rocker.
 

NavyOffRec

Well-Known Member
I agree lots of places likely won't care, but having worked at even very liberal multinational corporations (that go to absurd lengths to demonstrate how liberal/diverse/inclusive they are) with lots of colleagues at said companies and friends in others, people for better or worse can still get fired over it, especially when it's a subordinate-superior relationship and even sometimes more generally within the same team/department. In some cases, all it took was a complaint to HR, and the people in the relationship were told to go home while being outprocessed, no questions asked and no opportunity for a defense. But to be fair, I've seen it cause unnecessary workplace drama and badly hurt productivity especially when it's happening within the same team (including one of my past teams so as you can imagine everyone was very relieved when HR took action), so I'm with the Marines and with my company and likeminded companies on this one.

Edit: How could I forget that Intel's CEO (as most people may know, this is a very liberal Silicon Valley multinational tech company) was just a few months ago strongly pushed to resign due to the company's fraternization policies? https://www.theguardian.com/technol...-brian-krzanich-company-relationship-employee
Since I currently work in HR in a Fortune 100 company and have close friends that are in other fortune 500 companies, nearly all don't give a shit who you sleep with, now sleeping with a subordinate opens you up to accusations of favoritism which is bad.

We just hired a guy who came from another large company who made a comment we were more tame than his last place where there were lots of young people working and it was like a dating club at work.

basically almost no one cares anymore.
 

Hair Warrior

JO 1835
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https://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose...-employees-say-shadow-of-office-romances.html

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/06/inside-vice-media-shane-smith.html

Some startup companies are desperately trying to mimic the wild and fun atmosphere of college, at the expense of actual workplace effectiveness, in order to ahow angel investors/ buyout suitors that they are “cool” based on sex, drugs, and foosball tables.

Signs that #metoo is cooling it off: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/01/in-...vement-office-romance-hits-a-10-year-low.html
 
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