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All you want to know about being a "chop" (Ask your STuPId Supply questions here)

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macattack

Member
dmoney5857 said:
Hey guys, earlier this week I spoke to my recruiting officer and he informed me that Officer programs(supply,intel,swo) are now shut down and not accepting any applications except some tech degrees(for how long, he just said call him back in July and check with him...)? Is this accurate? If so, Im not graduating until July 2012 so should I expect them to be open by then? thanks
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I was given a non-specific "boards are on hold for the time being" statement. A lot of things are up in the air due to the government's budget issues so it's really hard to predict a year out.
 
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dmoney5857

Member
macattack said:
I was given a non-specific "boards are on hold for the time being" statement. A lot of things are up in the air due to the government's budget issues so it's really hard to predict a year out.
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thats true, I guess all i can do for now is stay in shape and keep the gpa up. thanks
 
tennesseenfo

tennesseenfo

New Member
Hello
I was wondering if there are any Reserve Supply Corps guys on here. I just got selected to transition from NFO to Supply Corps in the Reserve after my POCR board finally from getting bitten by the NSS monster in Feb. I have been told by the LCDR that I will be retained on active duty past the October date that I was told in my letter from the DCNP. He apparently wrangled me a spot at supply school from October to March. My real question is what will I be doing as an Ensign (Make LTJG in May 2012) in the Reserves since we don't really get farmed out to Active Duty units but during our AT? I am looking at a 1 year deferment just because my fiance who is a SWO in Hawaii will be deploying at the middle of next year. Also, are there any people who have orders to the October class at NSCS? Coming from stash job after stash job and no supply experience this should prove to be an interesting challenge to work with coming off active duty too. Thanks.
 
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NavyNukeNFO

FY09 NFO Selectee...turned FY12 CHOP
What platform is considered the hardest or most career enhancing? I am guessing probably subs, but wasn't sure. It seems like there are a lot of supply corps guys on a carrier.

Next question is, where would I go to see a list of possible places to be stationed as a supply corps officer? Mainly looking for the shore billets, since I can figure out the sea billets already.

If you go carriers, can you get your air supply pin and swo supply pin all in one tour and is that common?

Thanks in advance for any help!
 
BackOrdered

BackOrdered

Well-Known Member
Contributor
NavyNukeNFO said:
What platform is considered the hardest or most career enhancing? I am guessing probably subs, but wasn't sure. It seems like there are a lot of supply corps guys on a carrier.

Next question is, where would I go to see a list of possible places to be stationed as a supply corps officer? Mainly looking for the shore billets, since I can figure out the sea billets already.

If you go carriers, can you get your air supply pin and swo supply pin all in one tour and is that common?

Thanks in advance for any help!
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Carriers are the most career enhancing first tour in supply, period. You have an O-6 SUPPO to get you a sweet 2nd tour, you will get two warfare pins and all while not standing any major watches or collaterals. You will have 12 other chops to work with so you have constant experience. You may even get a Master Chief to run your division and operations. Best of all, your FITREP holds up the same as a first tour DDG/CG/FFG chop doing a Principle Assistant tour, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

Sub Supply is very challenging, but you are the department head, not a DIVO, which gets you some benefits. You'll have a full department under you and the Sub community is a unique group and experience. You also get a shot at getting all three pins if you do a carrier later! I have thought about doing a boomer tour as an O-3 just to experience it. Be warned, you may have to get fully sub qual'd, including Diving Officer of the Watch.

The worst has to be small boys. Alot of the Supply School's brightest JOs go to these as Principle Assistant to SUPPO, an O-3. You have to actually rank well enough in Supply School to even be considered due to the challenge. Many go because they don't want subs but do want to be challenged. In a nutshell, bare bones manning on small boys means you end up learning your guys' ratings, from working parties, records/paperwork, hell I've seen Supply JOs learn to cut hair and do laundry (I had to many times). The only chops are SUPPO and you, and if SUPPO doesn't know and you are deployed, you are out of luck at times and have to tread lightly to protect your accountability (This is where being bright in Supply School saves your ass). No Chief. And the warfare pin? Depends on your CO, but don't be surprised if you have to stand bridge watch or even OOD underway. I've stood Conn, CICWO, Helm Safety, Flying Squad Locker Officer, and of course Helicopter Control Officer. I had fun doing HCO and I still do, but it depends on the CO. I've had a CO make the watch hell.

So.... you will wear many many accountable hats (Postal Officer, Disbo, sales, etc), have alot of responsibility, little manning, maybe no senior enlisted help and little return (1 ubiquitous pin vs. 2 on a carrier or 1 unique one on a sub). And if anything happens to SUPPO (from holiday stand down, family emergency or sick day) you assume the role as department head, signing thousands of dollars in CASREPs, following up on half million dollar fund requests, handling departmental issues and briefing the Skipper. Honestly, I love playing SUPPO when he is away. The longer the better.

Your call.

As far as shore billets, good news. Supply has a shore billet pretty much everywhere there are sailors (and even places there aren't any). The trouble is you have to pick what's available. If you have an open mind, there is no issue here.
 
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NavyNukeNFO

FY09 NFO Selectee...turned FY12 CHOP
Wow...a fantastic answer to my question. I honestly want to go carriers and hope to be one of the brightest at the same time. I am a prior surface nuke, so I have been on two carriers already and really would like to go back if given the chance. The idea of being the SUPPO while they are gone does sound challenging/fun though.

I dont think Subs are for me personally, so it is refreshing to hear that you can be just as successful somewhere else on a first tour.

Nothing you said sounds bad at all....maybe that is why I have never heard a Supply Corps Officer ever say they didn't like their job. Everyone has bad days, but never overall have I heard one say they would do it any other way.

Thanks again for the awesome gouge!
 
borednstoked

borednstoked

New Member
I'm curious what it's like being a chop on a sub but curious how long you go between seeing daylight. I'm prior from a carrier and loved the open seas, standing out on the sponsens when I have a break. How long do the subs generally go between port visits? Is it basically the same as surface ships.....2-4 weeks?
 
bubblehead

bubblehead

Registered Member
Contributor
tiz84 said:
Sub Supply is very challenging... Be warned, you may have to get fully sub qual'd, including Diving Officer of the Watch.
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You will have to qualify in submarines. Period.

DOOW is challenging, however, your competency in this critical watch greatly enhances your credibility, at least on fast attacks.

Another added bonus about being on submarines is that you -- Officer AND Enlisted -- may have the opportunity to go to Dive School. This is especially true if you are shit-hot and hit the ground running when you report aboard.

Not sure why everyone is so submarine averse.
 
bubblehead

bubblehead

Registered Member
Contributor
borednstoked said:
I'm curious what it's like being a chop on a sub but curious how long you go between seeing daylight.
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If you are concerned about sunlight then do not go on submarines. I was on a certain fast-attack and have been submerged for as long as 62 days. Count on longer than this if you are on a special projects boat.

borednstoked said:
How long do the subs generally go between port visits? Is it basically the same as surface ships.....2-4 weeks?
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Between port visits? Port visits are mission dependent and are not the same as on surface ships. And, they can and do change.

BT

Another thing to consider is platform. SSN versus SSBN. There are pros and cons with each platform.

BT

The key take away is to be the top person in your schooling. First person gets first dibs. Last person gets the scraps.
 
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NavyNukeNFO

FY09 NFO Selectee...turned FY12 CHOP
This might cause hate and discontent but want to ask. I bought the brown shoes for flight school...that didnt work out and I am headed to Supply School...rather then throw them in the trash is it highly looked down upon to wear them at supply school? It is solely me not wanting the almost 80$ to go to waste rather then ever wanting to fake looking like a fly boy. Thanks in advance as always
 
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