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All you want to know about being a "chop" (Ask your STuPId Supply questions here)

Jared_G

OCS Date: Jul 15, 2006 (Supply)
Hello!

There are no “typical” working hours for a Supply Office onboard any ship. I’m on a DDG so I can tell you that I have, generally, more crap to worry about then a Supply Office onboard a CVN. Onboard a big deck you can be anything from the Sales Officer (which is HUGE and a lot of responsibility!) or you can be the Wardroom Mess Treasurer (which is a fricken joke). It really depends on what billets pop, at what time, and with what ship.

If your ship is about to go thru SMC then you will be there from 0600 (our liberty expires at 0700 each day) till about 1600-1700. We also had INSURV two weeks before SMC so I like to refer to that brief stint in my Naval career as the “I’m getting the hell out of this in 4-years” phase. That phase has passed, however. Right now we are a week out from deployment so I am letting my people go by 1200 each day because the Navy is about to get 6 solid months of work out of us and there just simply isn’t anything for them to do.

Underway I spend odd hours in the HCO tower. Now depending on which SUPPO you have, these hours can be long or short. My SUPPO is great and will relieve me for a bathroom break here and there and the occasional “I’m about to fall asleep during green deck” moments (I’m being dramatic). I have normal working hours in Disbursing but since PAPADET has appeared a lot of the pay/travel issues of the past are now handled on the shore side. I refuse to help out on the Bridge and on the watch-bill underway because contrary to SWO ignorance, I am not and will never be a SWO. I will never command a ship, I will never “drop warheads on foreheads” or any of that other SWO crap. I deal with treasury checks, ship store items, Navy Cash and flight quarters--beyond that consider it outside of my preview and beyond my caring. I stand OOD in port and Duty Supply and that is my contribution to the greater whole while in port.

However, all of the above can be thrown right out the window if your command climate is radically different than mine. If your CO/XO wants you to get your OOD letter and puts you on the watch bill, then you will be on the watch bill and you will stand bridge watches. Fortunately I have a great CO/XO and a strong SUPPO so they support my “the only time I’m on the bridge is if I get lost” mentality.

Being a Supply Officer is what you want it to be. Sure I can be a bag of ass and go on liberty at 1200 every day, but it helps to show my people that I’m in the same boat as them and that I will not leave before they do. I can also work myself to death and stay until 1700 every day but that isn’t productive, cuts into my social life and is generally unhealthy. The trick is to find your niche within the command and to stick to what you, and your Chief if you have one, feels comfortable with.

I think I just heard the 1-MC announcement for liberty call—see ya!
 

BigIron

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I would imagine the suppo support as Helicopter Control Officer is only a collateral duty for smaller ships. We don't have supply officers do that on the carrier.
 

Gatordev

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I would imagine the suppo support as Helicopter Control Officer is only a collateral duty for smaller ships. We don't have supply officers do that on the carrier.

Correct. Both DISBO and SUPPO get HCO qual'ed. My first deployment, they shared it fairly evenly (both prior airdale enlisted types). My second deployment, it was mostly DISBO, which was a good thing because it would take the SUPPO 10 minutes to find the PTT switch for the tower comms.
 

Oakley568

DI$BO
Hello!

There are no “typical” working hours for a Supply Office onboard any ship. I’m on a DDG so I can tell you that I have, generally, more crap to worry about then a Supply Office onboard a CVN. Onboard a big deck you can be anything from the Sales Officer (which is HUGE and a lot of responsibility!) or you can be the Wardroom Mess Treasurer (which is a fricken joke). It really depends on what billets pop, at what time, and with what ship.

If your ship is about to go thru SMC then you will be there from 0600 (our liberty expires at 0700 each day) till about 1600-1700. We also had INSURV two weeks before SMC so I like to refer to that brief stint in my Naval career as the “I’m getting the hell out of this in 4-years” phase. That phase has passed, however. Right now we are a week out from deployment so I am letting my people go by 1200 each day because the Navy is about to get 6 solid months of work out of us and there just simply isn’t anything for them to do.

Underway I spend odd hours in the HCO tower. Now depending on which SUPPO you have, these hours can be long or short. My SUPPO is great and will relieve me for a bathroom break here and there and the occasional “I’m about to fall asleep during green deck” moments (I’m being dramatic). I have normal working hours in Disbursing but since PAPADET has appeared a lot of the pay/travel issues of the past are now handled on the shore side. I refuse to help out on the Bridge and on the watch-bill underway because contrary to SWO ignorance, I am not and will never be a SWO. I will never command a ship, I will never “drop warheads on foreheads” or any of that other SWO crap. I deal with treasury checks, ship store items, Navy Cash and flight quarters--beyond that consider it outside of my preview and beyond my caring. I stand OOD in port and Duty Supply and that is my contribution to the greater whole while in port.

However, all of the above can be thrown right out the window if your command climate is radically different than mine. If your CO/XO wants you to get your OOD letter and puts you on the watch bill, then you will be on the watch bill and you will stand bridge watches. Fortunately I have a great CO/XO and a strong SUPPO so they support my “the only time I’m on the bridge is if I get lost” mentality.

Being a Supply Officer is what you want it to be. Sure I can be a bag of ass and go on liberty at 1200 every day, but it helps to show my people that I’m in the same boat as them and that I will not leave before they do. I can also work myself to death and stay until 1700 every day but that isn’t productive, cuts into my social life and is generally unhealthy. The trick is to find your niche within the command and to stick to what you, and your Chief if you have one, feels comfortable with.

I think I just heard the 1-MC announcement for liberty call—see ya!

Sounds like you have an incredible command climate there...I'm planning on going to a Carrier out of Washington state soon...any advice for my dreamsheet? I'm 2nd in the class (maybe first) and we just finished Food Service yesterday. Orders reading is coming up way too fast.
 

HeyJoe

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Hello!

......you can be the Wardroom Mess Treasurer (which is a fricken joke)!

Not a joke to Air Wing when the WMT doesn't even set foot in Dirty Shirt Wardroom and it becomes red headed stepchild despite paying good money for our chow and then end up underwriting better service* in the main Wardroom. Midrats are crucial part of round the clock ops and if WMT doesn't treat his or her job seriously, Air Wing goes to big XO to address the situation.

* ie Drink machines out of cal, Autodog inop, Midrats runs out of ingredients, runny, watery salad dressing.......
 

maxnharry

New Member
Actually you won't be the wardroom mess treasurer. That will co to another officer as a collateral. You might be the wardroom officer. We have two different people doing those jobs because there are too many opportunities for shenanigans otherwise.
 

NavyNole

New Member
This is probably a stupid question, hence I asked it under this thread, but do suppos ever get high in the ranks? What type of work do supply officers do when they get higher and higher in the ranks? Just wondering for those who decide to make a career out of the supply corps rather than going to the private sector after serving.
 

BackOrdered

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This is probably a stupid question, hence I asked it under this thread, but do suppos ever get high in the ranks? What type of work do supply officers do when they get higher and higher in the ranks? Just wondering for those who decide to make a career out of the supply corps rather than going to the private sector after serving.

At O-4 and above you do business that the civilian sector will drool over. Unlike the other branches of services' logistics, we truly are the logistics force of the U.S. Military that makes all these quick mobilizations of people and supplies around the world possible through not just wads of cash and "sayso", but our expertise, communication skills, and ingenuity. Alot of times I see SUPPO work getting parts and stores on the ship that took sheer professional knowledge and communications skills to make happen and get our ship underway. Make no mistake, Supply officers are the businessmen of the fleet and a civilian employer that doesn't want that on their team is crazy.

At O-4 you can be a Destroyer squadron Supply Officer, at O-5 you can be a Carrier SUPPO or Force Disbursing Officer, and at O-6 you can operate the budget of entire type commands. A Masters is essential in the Supply Corps before seeing O-5. Despite the belief that Military accounting isn't profit oriented, that is actually very far from the truth. Listing of Stock turn improvements and decision you made to pump money into MWR can go a long ways and this is all before you make LTjg.
 

GreenLantern330

Active Member
What are the different types of supply officers? I spoke to a recruiter today and she said something about flag officers and a different kind, which I forgot what it was called. Said something about the other kind "having it made" and that being the way to go.
 

BackOrdered

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What are the different types of supply officers? I spoke to a recruiter today and she said something about flag officers and a different kind, which I forgot what it was called. Said something about the other kind "having it made" and that being the way to go.

For new Ensigns you have Disbursing Officer, Sales Officer, Food Service Officer, Cargo Officer, Assistant Supply Officer (yours truly), Postal Officer, HAZMAT Officer, Wardroom Mess Officer, and Supply Department Head on a sub.

"Different kind" and "having it made" is a little too broad to go on.
 

BackOrdered

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Thanks for the info! I think she said disbursing officers "have it made" but I'll just ask again.

As a Disbursing Officer, I would strongly disagree. I have a saying that Supply Corps School attrition doesn't happen in the school house, but in the fleet. Disbursing Officers are on the top of the list easy. Disbursing Officers have a million ways they can lose accountability and get fired or even go to jail. Especially on smaller ships where you are the only Disbursing personnel on board wearing several other hats on top of being on the bridge underway watchbill.
 

BackOrdered

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.....damn. I'm glad I checked with the people here because I definitely wouldn't wanna go down that route.

Few jobs in Supply aren't much different. All of them are about being accountable for funds, services, and assets and a lot can never be delegated without consequences. If you have an immature mindset, think a senior enlisted guys job is to do everything for you (a fatal error in supply), or hate inventories you are going to get in trouble quick.
 
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