• Please take a moment and update your account profile. If you have an updated account profile with basic information on why you are on Air Warriors it will help other people respond to your posts. How do you update your profile you ask?

    Go here:

    Edit Account Details and Profile

1,001 questions about the ASTB (post your scores & ask your questions here!)

Quick question regarding LORs. I have three LORs so far. 2 Vice Admirals (yes, I know them personally) and 1 from a Cabinet Secretary (also yes, I know him personally). I’m working on getting my scores up from my previous OAR. If I score within the high 40s low 50s, how well will my LORs carry me? I also am prior experience with multiple leadership roles inside and outside the military.
 

Meyerkord

A-Pool/Swim/IFS/API
Quick question regarding LORs. I have three LORs so far. 2 Vice Admirals (yes, I know them personally) and 1 from a Cabinet Secretary (also yes, I know him personally). I’m working on getting my scores up from my previous OAR. If I score within the high 40s low 50s, how well will my LORs carry me? I also am prior experience with multiple leadership roles inside and outside the military.
Are you going for aviation? If so, the LORs don't carry much at all. My recruiter didn't have me do any.
 
Why is that? Did he explain it to you at all? I'm currently in Pensacola as an instructor. Will be submitting my package in December and was actually curious about the LOR's. I've heard mixed feelings about them. I'll be submitting for NFO.
He didn't really explain it to me, but from what I've gathered, the ASTB scores and GPA are really what makes or breaks you. Those numbers get put into a calculator to see if you're competitive or not. The other stuff in your application is just fluff, at least for aviation. For other communities, though, LORs are definitely needed. Just depends on the community I guess.
 
Hello all, thought I would share my stats, and experience for anyone willing to listen.

Took the OAR back in Sept. and got a 45. Felt like the Math really threw me a curve ball there, was not my strongest test. The math had a lot of word problems with concepts I haven't used in years, did the best I could considering. Reading was pretty straight forward, I felt I did well in it. The Mechanical portion I felt was the easiest, got a lot of diagram questions, gears, etc. I gave little study time, maybe 4 - 6 hrs a week for maybe 2 weeks.

Due to my age, I don't have too many options in terms of what job I can submit a package to (I will be 30 in March '19). My recruiter narrowed down a choice of either Intel or Public Affairs (which would be a great fit since my background is in marketing, advertising, and graphic design; definitely some applicable skills here). Was also interested in Intel, since my father is prior military and did a lot of Intel work back in his day. My GPA is 3.5, BA in Graphic Design and Digital Media, over 10 years in the field, no prior service.

So naturally, a 45 score wasn't enough to be considered competitive, not to mention my degree is not something that is especially desirable, especially for Intel, so I geared up for a retest. Found this forum, downloaded some zip files containing some study guides and practice tests. Since I felt that the math portion gave me the hardest time, I focused on that for the next 30 days, upping my study time to 2 - 4 hrs, 2 - 3 days a week. I would suggest getting a GRE test prep book for math, especially since none of the OAR books or online materials held a candle to how the actual test was, at least in my opinion.

I used this one: https://www.amazon.com/CliffsNotes-Math-Review-Standardized-Tests/dp/0544631021/ref=dp_ob_title_bk

So after locking down complex mathematical concepts, I felt ready enough for the retake, which was today. Breezed through the math portion, and was feeling pretty confident. I was a little suspicious that this time there weren't as many complicated word problems as the first time, not sure if that was a good or bad thing. There were some probability questions, maybe one or two geometry questions, most were just equations, (radicals, negative powers, fractional equations, etc) Easy stuff, even finished with 7 minutes to spare.

Reading was next, again pretty straight forward, I don't believe I had too much difficulty on this one. Pretty much the same as the first attempt, almost ran out of time though.

Mechanical was a different story, NOTHING compared to the first time. Almost all of the questions were not concepts I've studied before, or if I did I've long since forgotten. The overall test didn't even feel the same, I was expecting more diagrams, and gear related questions similar to the study materials I've gathered, but got completely taken for a loop. My heart sunk, and I guessed on a good number of questions.

I ended up with a 44 on my second attempt, so I did worse! I'm assuming that this time the mechanical portion was enough to completely diminish any improvements on my math score. Either that, or I did worse on the Reading than I thought. So now I have one last attempt to nail this thing and score above 50.

I'm looking at another retest sometime in Dec/Jan for the Feb '19 board. I've also managed to get a hold of an ASVAB prep book, since I've read somewhere that the mechanical portion in that is fairly similar to the OAR. Will do some more research, and dig into it more, but I'm not sure if I'm just not performing well on test day, or my nerves got the better of me, or simply not approaching the exam prep the right way. I don't plan on retaking until I'm positive I will get a better score, which seems to be easier said than done in my case. And since is my final attempt, I can't afford to take any chances.
 
Top