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1,001 questions about the ASTB (post your scores & ask your questions here!)

So I just got my ASTB scores back this morning and am relatively happy with them. Wish I did a little better on the OAR, but I'll live with my score for now.

First off, here is my score:

OAR: 61
AQR: 8
PFAR: 9
FOFAR: 8​

Study Materials

  • Barron's Military Flight Aptitude Tests 2013 (This was the most helpful to me by far.)
  • ASTB-E Secrets (Covers a lot of the basics, though doesn't explain them in depth. Has a good practice test in it though.)
  • Gouges here, notably Atrickpays gouge.

A lot of people here do breakdowns, so I'll do a quick one on the differences between the test I studied for and the test I took.

MST - Math Skills Test

Hot damn. Some of the questions that I received in this section were way tougher that what I studied for. I got a mix of word problems and probability questions, and some advanced polynomial expressions littered with exponents. The word problems were pretty similar to what I studied for, but I was not expecting some of the harder math problems. I just did my best and used common sense to simplify when asked. My advice, know everything about exponents (when to add, multiply, divide, what fractional exponents do, etc).

Like many others have said, take your time on this part. I finished with plenty of time to spare, and I didn't get close to 30 questions.

RCT - Reading Comprehension Test

I had a little trouble here as well. I was expecting long passages that I would have to pull information from, but instead it was short passages that you had to determine the meaning of. All of the answers were 'mostly right' with one that fit best. I really took my time here, and I re-read each question at least twice. I finished with only a few minutes to spare. I can't really advise on how to prepare for this other that to pay attention to the passage, and double check your answer.

MCT - Mechanical Comprehension Test

By far the easiest part of the OAR for me. This section is essentially exactly what I studied for in the Barrons book and gouges. Learn all of the simple machines, how to calculate MA and the basic laws of physics. I really didn't have any curveball questions on this one.

ANIT - Aviation and Nautical Information Test

This section should be a review of knowledge for you. Read up on American naval history, and naval aviation history. Get a good understanding of how airplanes and ships function and navigate. Understand runway markings, lights, common terminology, etc. This section will be a breeze if you prepare for it properly.

NATFI - Naval Aviation Trait Facet Inventory

Answer whichever fits you best. Sometimes you choose between two good choices, and sometimes two bad choices.

PBM - Performance Based Measures Battery

Oh boy, this was the fun section.

UAV ORIENTATION
This part is confusing at first, but you get unlimited practice runs, so use them. Get familiar with how to solve these as fast as possible. I tried to use the compass trick, but you can definitely be faster if you don't have to turn that paper every question. Go through the practice runs, and when you can answer them all without missing one, and quickly, go onto the real deal.

DICHOTIC LISTENING
This was the easiest part of the PBM for me. When you hear a specific command in your target ear, press a button. Simple stuff.

THROTTLE & STICK
This part is where it starts to get tricky. For me, the throttle (Thrustmaster HOTAS) was tough to use. It was sensitive, so I had a hard time moving it the same speed as my target. When the joystick came into play I initially forgot that it would be inverted (don't ask me how) but once I got used to that, I was able to keep it near the target.

COMBINATION - THROTTLE, STICK, & DICHOTIC LISTENING
This part is hard. It was designed to be hard. I think the most important part is that you keep your cool, and try your best. I focused on the joystick, and kept the throttle in the corner of my eye, and just did my best. Remain calm in this section, and don't let your errors become cumulative. I felt like I rarely hit the target, but my score says I did okay.

EMERGENCY SITUATION
This section is a nice breather after that last one. You still have to use both the joystick and the throttle, but no one is shouting in your ear this time until you encounter and emergency. When you do, just follow the solution instructions given to you on the previous page, and you will be fine. It only takes a second to implement them, so do it fast, and try to continue tracking the targets while you do it.
And that was my experience with the ASTB. It was hard, but I felt confident going in, and I remained calm for the duration of the test, and I think that helps too. If anyone has specific questions, feel free to ask.

Hi, I am a Junior in NROTC and just took the ASTB for the second time. I scored a 50, 6-7-6. I only have one more chance to take it and am wondering if I should risk it and take it again, or if these scores are competitive enough. I have a 3.3 GPA in Biology and an outstanding on my PRT so my evals are pretty solid. I kinda rushed through the math and mechanical section because I thought I less time for the amount of questions, but I had plenty of time left over... I think I could probably study a bit more and get a better score if I took it one more time, but its my last chance.
 
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Wildcat15

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Hi, I am a Junior in NROTC and just took the ASTB for the second time. I scored a 50, 6-7-6. I only have one more chance to take it and am wondering if I should risk it and take it again, or if these scores are competitive enough. I have a 3.3 GPA in Biology and an outstanding on my PRT so my evals are pretty solid. I kinda rushed through the math and mechanical section because I thought I less time for the amount of questions, but I had plenty of time left over... I think I could probably study a bit more and get a better score if I took it one more time, but its my last chance.
https://www.airwarriors.com/community/index.php?threads/what-nrc-considers-competitive.41212/
 

Pilot Wannabe

New Member
Hi, I am a Junior in NROTC and just took the ASTB for the second time. I scored a 50, 6-7-6. I only have one more chance to take it and am wondering if I should risk it and take it again, or if these scores are competitive enough. I have a 3.3 GPA in Biology and an outstanding on my PRT so my evals are pretty solid. I kinda rushed through the math and mechanical section because I thought I less time for the amount of questions, but I had plenty of time left over... I think I could probably study a bit more and get a better score if I took it one more time, but its my last chance.

Don't mess with it. Your scores are good. Just make sure you place a lot of emphasis on physical fitness and extracurriculars that highlight your leadership capabilities. It's not worth it man. Those are good scores. You probably won't do much better and if you don't, or worse get lower for some reason, then game over man. Stick with what you have and do your best in everything you do from here on out! GOOD LUCK MAN!!!! I hope you get selected!
 

42Zulu

Well-Known Member
Just took the OAR. 27 in April so no need to worry about ASTB. Scored a 61. Sitting in the office now waiting to talk to my recruiter, but looking at Intel, crypto, or SWO.

I primarily used Peterson's to study, working through the math reasoning, arithmetic reasoning, reading comprehension, and mechanical comprehension sections. I would go through half the questions in the practice test, check my answers, and then figure out what I did wrong. Repeat until no more problems.

Near the end of studying I picked up the Dummies book and took the practice test and got destroyed by the mechanical section. I would highly discourage driving too deep into that book since it really goes into physics equations which weren't on my test. The Accepted book that has been talked on here did talk about certain aspects like logs and mechanical comp questions that Peterson's didn't touch, but don't make it your only guide. I supplemented everything by taking every test prep and gouge on the forum. Massively helpful.

Math: I didn't see many of the questions I expected to see. One log, one simplify this equation, one question with simplifying negative exponents, and a lot of fraction work. The pony question someone posted earlier in this thread was also on it. I thought I tanked this section to be honest as after spending nearly 4 minutes on a question and having only 5 minutes left on the test, I guessed and the section ended.

Reading: The practice tests didn't really help I thought. This was almost exclusively Navy regulations or related things. If I could re study for this I'd read really dry Navy rules and try to make conclusions after each paragraph. Ran out of time.

Mechanical: Not many simple machines questions, but there one where you were asked how far someone should sit on a seesaw based on two others in the other side (ex. Mary is 40lbs, Jack and Jill are both 60, with Jack sitting 1m from the fulcrum and Jill sitting 1.5m, how far should Mary sit to even it out). I had a question on friction coefficient that I guessed, and quite a few questions related to centripetal force. Nothing too crazy. I think Peterson's plus the gouges here do more than suffice.

Overall, I'm pretty pumped. Thought I tanked and as I saw the score pop up I didn't believe it. Don't even quite believe it now even though I'm holding the physical print out with my score on it.

Take your time studying. I called my recruiter a bit over a month ago and with a wife and full-time job I managed to knock out this studying. Use your guides, this forum, and for anything you're confused on, khanacademy.com has the answers.
 
Took the test today. Scored 43, 5,7,6. I'm pretty sure the OAR score doesn't matter for Pilot/NFO. Just the AQR, PFAR and FOFAR.

I could have done better on the OAR but hopefully I don't need to retake it.

I used Barron's for studying.
 

exNavyOffRec

Well-Known Member
Just took the OAR. 27 in April so no need to worry about ASTB. Scored a 61. Sitting in the office now waiting to talk to my recruiter, but looking at Intel, crypto, or SWO.

I primarily used Peterson's to study, working through the math reasoning, arithmetic reasoning, reading comprehension, and mechanical comprehension sections. I would go through half the questions in the practice test, check my answers, and then figure out what I did wrong. Repeat until no more problems.

Near the end of studying I picked up the Dummies book and took the practice test and got destroyed by the mechanical section. I would highly discourage driving too deep into that book since it really goes into physics equations which weren't on my test. The Accepted book that has been talked on here did talk about certain aspects like logs and mechanical comp questions that Peterson's didn't touch, but don't make it your only guide. I supplemented everything by taking every test prep and gouge on the forum. Massively helpful.

Math: I didn't see many of the questions I expected to see. One log, one simplify this equation, one question with simplifying negative exponents, and a lot of fraction work. The pony question someone posted earlier in this thread was also on it. I thought I tanked this section to be honest as after spending nearly 4 minutes on a question and having only 5 minutes left on the test, I guessed and the section ended.

Reading: The practice tests didn't really help I thought. This was almost exclusively Navy regulations or related things. If I could re study for this I'd read really dry Navy rules and try to make conclusions after each paragraph. Ran out of time.

Mechanical: Not many simple machines questions, but there one where you were asked how far someone should sit on a seesaw based on two others in the other side (ex. Mary is 40lbs, Jack and Jill are both 60, with Jack sitting 1m from the fulcrum and Jill sitting 1.5m, how far should Mary sit to even it out). I had a question on friction coefficient that I guessed, and quite a few questions related to centripetal force. Nothing too crazy. I think Peterson's plus the gouges here do more than suffice.

Overall, I'm pretty pumped. Thought I tanked and as I saw the score pop up I didn't believe it. Don't even quite believe it now even though I'm holding the physical print out with my score on it.

Take your time studying. I called my recruiter a bit over a month ago and with a wife and full-time job I managed to knock out this studying. Use your guides, this forum, and for anything you're confused on, khanacademy.com has the answers.

Do you have a very high GPA? Is it tech? otherwise you would be best served trying for SWO
 

42Zulu

Well-Known Member
Do you have a very high GPA? Is it tech? otherwise you would be best served trying for SWO

3.5 GPA. Chinese undergrad degree and masters degree in business. Speak Chinese.

My recruiter said that I have a pretty good shot at Intel, but either way I think I'm applying to both boards.

1) Intel
2) SWO
3) Crypto
 

exNavyOffRec

Well-Known Member
3.5 GPA. Chinese undergrad degree and masters degree in business. Speak Chinese.

My recruiter said that I have a pretty good shot at Intel, but either way I think I'm applying to both boards.

1) Intel
2) SWO
3) Crypto

"good" is a subjective term, overall IWC selection rates are about 10-15%, but when you look only at Intel it is 3-7%, SWO has a much higher selection rate.
 
Can anybody tell me if the OAR holds any weight for Pilot/NFO boards? I took the ASTB yesterday and meet the requirements for Pilot/NFO but I didn't do very well on the OAR portion. I don't believe the OAR holds any weight for the board but I'm not to sure. I Scored a 43, 5,7,6
 

TigerKiller

Active Member
For the past several weeks, I've been studying the following flashcard sets/study guide about 30 min to an hour every day with what little available time I have as well as brushing my teeth with my non-dominant hand (I'm lefty) and playing video games with inverted controls. Just retook the ASTB-E this Friday, a couple months after the first attempt, and improved from a 48 5/6/5 to a 57 7/8/7. Below are links to the flashcards and the study guide:

Math Skills Test:
http://www.proprofs.com/flashcards/story.php?title=astb-math-knowledge

Mechanical Comprehension Test:
http://www.proprofs.com/flashcards/story.php?title=astb-mechanical-comprehension-test

Aviation and Nautical Information Test:
http://www.proprofs.com/flashcards/story.php?title=astb-aviation-nautical-inforfmation-test

Study Guide:
http://www.futureofficer.com/downloads/ASTB_Personal_Study_Guide.pdf

Focus on the flashcards and study guides above and just keep your cool during the Performance Based Measures portions and don't blow off the BI-RV and you'll be fine.
 

koliver

Well-Known Member
Can anybody tell me if the OAR holds any weight for Pilot/NFO boards? I took the ASTB yesterday and meet the requirements for Pilot/NFO but I didn't do very well on the OAR portion. I don't believe the OAR holds any weight for the board but I'm not to sure. I Scored a 43, 5,7,6
The OAR score is a gauge on how well you will do at OCS so yes it is taken into account. I believe you need higher than a 35 to even qualify, but a 43 is below average. 45 and higher is what I heard to aim for. If I were you I'd take this time to study up on what was hard for you and you'll probably do better. I retested and my OAR went from 56 to 55 which really isn't a big difference, but for you it would be bad if it went down so study hard.
 

Jeff Ballou

New Member
Hey guys. Took my ASTB about a month ago. Scored a 69 OAR 9/8/8
Here's my breakdown and advice if you're interested

Math
Would highly recommend brushing up on basic probability, D=RT type problems, and working with fractions. Those made up the majority of my math portion. I remember one probability question asking how many combinations were possible for a license plate given you could use letters for the first three sets of digits, numbers including zero for the last four, and repeat values. Ended up guessing on that one. However, most were not that difficult.

Reading
I personally didn't find this section difficult, however it seemed to jump around in difficulty level. Shrug

Mechanical
Had some pretty broad based concept questions. Some moment/torque balancing. Nothing too complicated. I didn't see any mechanical advantage specific problems.

Nautical Info.
Pretty random questions. A lot of what I saw are in this forum. Ex. Who does the CAG report to? What specific type of jet that escorted bombers in WWII?
But also some really easy questions. Ex. What controls elevation in a plane?

UAV
Use the compass trick if you can. Practice until you can go fast and be accurate. I answered 100% with around a 2.5-3 second average

PBM
Just try your best and don't lose focus. Write down the instructions for the Emergency procedures and make sure to calibrate your controls correctly. Honestly, the listening even odd thing and tracking was more difficult that the Emergency procedures for me.

Little bit about me.
Aerospace Engineer, 3.3 GPA after my third semester , 1370 Math and Reading SAT, 31 ACT
Big sports guy and generally only do school work from Sunday night to Thursday afternoon.
Currently procrastinating studying for a dynamics exam
I believe in all you guys and gals

All in all, I did not think I was going to do that well. As I was going through the test I didn't feel super confident and had no idea how they would score the PBM section.
From the people in my NROTC Unit that have taken it, I would say there's a high correlation with dexterity/coordination to the PFAR and with grades to AQR.
 

Caleb Chapley

Chaps2100
How is each section setup. I found a post about there being 40 min math do as many question as you can. Is that true if so what are the other section like?
 

Triumph4life

Well-Known Member
Does anyone happen to know the page that describes the compass trick in detail? I will continue to search but if someone has it or has there own version it would be greatly appreciated.
From my understanding of it:
draw a compass, when the heading is read out orient the compass in that way.

Is that really it?
 
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