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Chav317

New Member
Maybe this question has been asked before, but does the ASTB penalize for guessing? I've taken the test twice and have, both times, run out of time on the MST and MCT sections. Also, I keep getting a 4 on the PFAR and need to figure out what I am doing wrong. I need at least a 5 to even be considered for flight school. Help!
 

Buster95

Active Member
pilot
Maybe this question has been asked before, but does the ASTB penalize for guessing? I've taken the test twice and have, both times, run out of time on the MST and MCT sections. Also, I keep getting a 4 on the PFAR and need to figure out what I am doing wrong. I need at least a 5 to even be considered for flight school. Help!
The test is adaptive, so if you guess and get it wrong then it could hurt you. Each question should get harder if you get it right until you reach your "ceiling" when it comes to your knowledge on the subject. If you run out of time, it could be a good or bad sign. If it cuts you off really early, then you're doing well.

PFAR is primarily scored by how well you do on the aviation/nautical section, uav section, joystick portion, and emergency procedures. Practice makes perfect when it comes to the uav and aviation knowledge sections. However, the joystick portion really does measure your aptitude since you can't really practice for that.
 

exNavyOffRec

Well-Known Member
The test is adaptive, so if you guess and get it wrong then it could hurt you. Each question should get harder if you get it right until you reach your "ceiling" when it comes to your knowledge on the subject. If you run out of time, it could be a good or bad sign. If it cuts you off really early, then you're doing well.

PFAR is primarily scored by how well you do on the aviation/nautical section, uav section, joystick portion, and emergency procedures. Practice makes perfect when it comes to the uav and aviation knowledge sections. However, the joystick portion really does measure your aptitude since you can't really practice for that.

If you guess and guess wrong it won't hurt you as long as you get the next ones correct and continue to do well, in that respect this test is better than the old one, since on the old one if you got it wrong, it was wrong, on this one if you got it wrong you can still recover and get a good score.

This one has less of the "dumb luck" good scores.
 

Buster95

Active Member
pilot
If you guess and guess wrong it won't hurt you as long as you get the next ones correct and continue to do well, in that respect this test is better than the old one, since on the old one if you got it wrong, it was wrong, on this one if you got it wrong you can still recover and get a good score.

This one has less of the "dumb luck" good scores.
Ah gotcha, thank you for the clarification.
 

Navylaw

New Member
Hey guys I scheduled my ASTB-E for the OAR part for October/12/2016 I'm applying for the IP community, I just wanted to thank you all for the information that you guys have been provided on this forum it's been very helpful for prepare myself adequately for the test. Thanks and wish me luck!
I take mine on that date too! Good luck
 

chaz2x4

Member
Finished taking the ASTB for the second time yesterday:

Scores were 52-6/9/7

I'm a bit worried about my OAR and AQR scores, but I got a far better pilot score! Definitely an improvement over a 56-5/4/4.

My OAR and AQR scores went down a bit for a couple of reasons. One being I spent a lot of time practicing for the PBM, and not enough time studying for the OAR. I'm hoping to have a good shot with a 3.35 Computer Science GPA package. My package includes no sports, hiking, camping and fishing. I'll let you guys know as soon as I can.

Since everyone is doing a breakdown I'll do one as well:

Study material:
Barron's Military Flight Aptitude Test, 3rd e
TBAS UAV slides
And a few of the older gouges on this forum.

I would suggest practicing as many gouges as possible to increase your OAR score!!

Math
This section was a little more difficult that I expected. I put it down to stress, but practicing word problems is definitely a plus. Make sure you take your time with this section. I accidentally clicked two wrong answers in a row and freaked out because I couldn't go back.

Reading
Not really sure how to help with this one. I mostly skipped over it in practice, other than doing the practice tests. I felt confident in this section. The passages were relatively short, and it would help to know how to eliminate "less right" answers from an answer set.

Mechanical
This is the section I struggled with most of all. I understood the basics of MA, but pivots and torque definitely got me. That's something I would suggest studying up on - the MA needed for pivots, i.e the length that a wrench handle needs to be if you have 80lbs of force on the end, and need to turn 110lbs; as well as the distance from the fulcrum needed, in order to lift 2 persons on the other end of a seesaw individually spaced apart.

Aviation and Nautical Information
100% of my information came from Barron's Military Flight Aptitude Test. There are a few historical questions such as who broke the sound barrier first, etc. I definitely suggest reading up on Naval / Aviation history; Barron's has a section that runs through all of this briefly (and thoroughly enough).

PBM

UAV Section
This section is where I started doing really well. I practiced the TBAS UAV section for like a month straight. The trick I used is to figure out what parking lot is closest to your left, or right and orient yourself around that. i.e. if we're flying in from the North East, North will be on your right, and east will be on your left. The South parking lot will be 2 parking lots on your left. My average time was around 1.5-2.5 seconds. I did miss around 3 or 4 items, though. Don't double guess yourself too much in this section.

Dichotic Listening
The first time I took the ASTB I misread the instructions on how to do this. It's fairly simple once you have the aptitude. Listen in right ear for numbers, and press the corresponding buttons.

Vertical Tracking / 2D Tracking / MultiTasking / Emergency Procedures
I'd like to shout out to Battlefield 4 for allowing me to practice my throttle and joystick handling with video game cheaters from all over the world. In this section, as discussed before, you have to use the throttle and joystick to track a tiny airplane around in a couple dimensions. The big caveat of this section is the multitasking. Eventually you have to track a plane in 1D, track another in 2D and do the dichotic listening section all in one. Just do your best here. The goal is to see how accurate you are with a joystick, and a lot of the times a lot of my tracking was red.
Towards the end of it they switch up the dichotic listening with some emergency procedures, whilst still doing the tracking. Make sure to memorize the the correct knobs you need to turn for the respective procedures!
It helped me to figure out which directions on the knobs were 100% and which were 0%. There is a calibration section at the beginning of the PBM that will help you figure this out.

Good luck!!
Hope to see you all in flight school!!

P.S. message me if you have any questions any about anything! My scores weren't that amazing, but i'm still always willing to help! I'll be hanging around here to prepare for flight school and learn as much as I can before shipping out!
 

Navylaw

New Member
Finished taking the ASTB for the second time yesterday:

Scores were 52-6/9/7

I'm a bit worried about my OAR and AQR scores, but I got a far better pilot score! Definitely an improvement over a 56-5/4/4.

My OAR and AQR scores went down a bit for a couple of reasons. One being I spent a lot of time practicing for the PBM, and not enough time studying for the OAR. I'm hoping to have a good shot with a 3.35 Computer Science GPA package. My package includes no sports, hiking, camping and fishing. I'll let you guys know as soon as I can.

Since everyone is doing a breakdown I'll do one as well:

Study material:
Barron's Military Flight Aptitude Test, 3rd e
TBAS UAV slides
And a few of the older gouges on this forum.

I would suggest practicing as many gouges as possible to increase your OAR score!!

Math
This section was a little more difficult that I expected. I put it down to stress, but practicing word problems is definitely a plus. Make sure you take your time with this section. I accidentally clicked two wrong answers in a row and freaked out because I couldn't go back.

Reading
Not really sure how to help with this one. I mostly skipped over it in practice, other than doing the practice tests. I felt confident in this section. The passages were relatively short, and it would help to know how to eliminate "less right" answers from an answer set.

Mechanical
This is the section I struggled with most of all. I understood the basics of MA, but pivots and torque definitely got me. That's something I would suggest studying up on - the MA needed for pivots, i.e the length that a wrench handle needs to be if you have 80lbs of force on the end, and need to turn 110lbs; as well as the distance from the fulcrum needed, in order to lift 2 persons on the other end of a seesaw individually spaced apart.

Aviation and Nautical Information
100% of my information came from Barron's Military Flight Aptitude Test. There are a few historical questions such as who broke the sound barrier first, etc. I definitely suggest reading up on Naval / Aviation history; Barron's has a section that runs through all of this briefly (and thoroughly enough).

PBM

UAV Section
This section is where I started doing really well. I practiced the TBAS UAV section for like a month straight. The trick I used is to figure out what parking lot is closest to your left, or right and orient yourself around that. i.e. if we're flying in from the North East, North will be on your right, and east will be on your left. The South parking lot will be 2 parking lots on your left. My average time was around 1.5-2.5 seconds. I did miss around 3 or 4 items, though. Don't double guess yourself too much in this section.

Dichotic Listening
The first time I took the ASTB I misread the instructions on how to do this. It's fairly simple once you have the aptitude. Listen in right ear for numbers, and press the corresponding buttons.

Vertical Tracking / 2D Tracking / MultiTasking / Emergency Procedures
I'd like to shout out to Battlefield 4 for allowing me to practice my throttle and joystick handling with video game cheaters from all over the world. In this section, as discussed before, you have to use the throttle and joystick to track a tiny airplane around in a couple dimensions. The big caveat of this section is the multitasking. Eventually you have to track a plane in 1D, track another in 2D and do the dichotic listening section all in one. Just do your best here. The goal is to see how accurate you are with a joystick, and a lot of the times a lot of my tracking was red.
Towards the end of it they switch up the dichotic listening with some emergency procedures, whilst still doing the tracking. Make sure to memorize the the correct knobs you need to turn for the respective procedures!
It helped me to figure out which directions on the knobs were 100% and which were 0%. There is a calibration section at the beginning of the PBM that will help you figure this out.

Good luck!!
Hope to see you all in flight school!!

P.S. message me if you have any questions any about anything! My scores weren't that amazing, but i'm still always willing to help! I'll be hanging around here to prepare for flight school and learn as much as I can before shipping out!
Do you know where I can find examples of the M.A. of pivots? Or how would solved the question you found ? I think I may be over thinking it. Thanks
 

exNavyOffRec

Well-Known Member
Finished taking the ASTB for the second time yesterday:

Scores were 52-6/9/7

I'm a bit worried about my OAR and AQR scores, but I got a far better pilot score! Definitely an improvement over a 56-5/4/4.

My OAR and AQR scores went down a bit for a couple of reasons. One being I spent a lot of time practicing for the PBM, and not enough time studying for the OAR. I'm hoping to have a good shot with a 3.35 Computer Science GPA package. My package includes no sports, hiking, camping and fishing. I'll let you guys know as soon as I can.

It is your ASTB that will get you selected, I had many picked up that all they did was go to college, you should have a pretty good shot.
 

Chav317

New Member
So I put myself in a bad situation and got underway on patrol with only one book to study, the ASTB-E Study Guide published by Accepted Inc. At this point, I have run out of questions to review and have moved onto the gouges posted on this website. I'm actually struggling with apatrick's guide because it is a ton of information and a little overwhelming. My question now is this... would it be possible to acquire a pdf version of Barron's Military Flight Aptitude Test, 3rd edition? It seems to be the best thing to study to improve PFAR (which has been the most difficult part for me). Again, I've taken the ASTB twice now and have gotten a 4 on the PFAR both times. I need serious help and I am getting nervous that I won't be prepared again. It doesn't help that this is my last opportunity. Any help is truly appreciated. Thank you again!
 
Finished the ASTB Exam (10/14/2016). Received a 55 6/4/5.
Used the Barron's 3rd edition book to study most of the questions. Felt like it prepared me for the majority of the sections on the exam.

Things that could have gone better.
The UAV and the Pilot control portions.
UAV
I used the technique of finding the site on the left hand of the pointer that chaz2x4 suggested at the top of the page. I did well in the practice but was slower than I hoped and got a few wrong during the exam. Use all the practice time you want. Really prepares you for the exam.

Pilot Control
What an epic disaster. The headphones that were given to me had some "bleed-over" in the ears and the words produced sounded like an ATC Hotmic (haha jk for any ATCs out there). Unlike the UAV Section, the pilot controls only offer you one practice run and it was very confusing when to press each button for the listening section. Make sure you understand the directions completely prior to taking the practice exam. The joystick control was all over the place. Very sensitive and it just sucked in general. Recommend writing down the directions for each ear and the proper maneuvers for the flight controls and the EP section.

In general, I hope my score are decent enough for NFO. I have a 4.0 GPA with a degree in Aeronautics so I hope my college score influences some amount of decisions. Wasn't the happiest with my scores and looking for any advice to improve each section.

Any advice on improving the ASTB???
 
Finished the ASTB Exam (10/14/2016). Received a 55 6/4/5.
Used the Barron's 3rd edition book to study most of the questions. Felt like it prepared me for the majority of the sections on the exam.

Things that could have gone better.
The UAV and the Pilot control portions.
UAV
I used the technique of finding the site on the left hand of the pointer that chaz2x4 suggested at the top of the page. I did well in the practice but was slower than I hoped and got a few wrong during the exam. Use all the practice time you want. Really prepares you for the exam.

Pilot Control
What an epic disaster. The headphones that were given to me had some "bleed-over" in the ears and the words produced sounded like an ATC Hotmic (haha jk for any ATCs out there). Unlike the UAV Section, the pilot controls only offer you one practice run and it was very confusing when to press each button for the listening section. Make sure you understand the directions completely prior to taking the practice exam. The joystick control was all over the place. Very sensitive and it just sucked in general. Recommend writing down the directions for each ear and the proper maneuvers for the flight controls and the EP section.

In general, I hope my score are decent enough for NFO. I have a 4.0 GPA with a degree in Aeronautics so I hope my college score influences some amount of decisions. Wasn't the happiest with my scores and looking for any advice to improve each section.

Any advice on improving the ASTB???


Additionally, I have 11 years military experience (12 in March). 2,800 flight hours in a H-60. Also wondering when the next selection board is and any help on package submissions.
 

exNavyOffRec

Well-Known Member
Additionally, I have 11 years military experience (12 in March). 2,800 flight hours in a H-60. Also wondering when the next selection board is and any help on package submissions.

I believe the due date for the next board was today, the next one should be early next year, which given your age would be your only shot.
 

Neifion

New Member
Took the OAR today. 2nd attempt. Got a 69. Was hoping for at least 70, but it's definitely a lot better than my first attempt (52).

Used Mometrix's "ASTB-E Secrets" book and searched online for practice problems.

Math had a simple probability, a few logarithms, a couple of rate problems, a couple of weighted averages, simplifying a polynomial, find the sum of an arithmetic series, and a couple of volume ratio problems. The volume ratio one stumped me because it wanted a cylinder's height in terms of the second's cylinder's volume and radius (both cylinders had the same height, while cylinder 2 was twice the volume of cylinder 1). Took me a while to simplify it to the version they wanted.

Reading was, as everyone else has stated, extremely dry. A lot of military procedure and the like. I had to read most of the passages a few times to really narrow things down.

Mechanical was the easiest. Nothing surprising here. Pulleys, mechanical advantage, fluids, circuits, and a few velocity/acceleration physics problems.

I ran out of time on all three, but I ended up doing not so bad. Thank you to everyone here for the guidance.
 
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