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Only losers who do non-flying disassociated sea tours ;) Yeah, we shoot our own boots off and then run down the (very warm) cat track in stocking feet

That’s roughly half of history of aviation. Incredible.

Mea culpa

OP, it's all about your priorities. If hubby gets picked up for SNA, then from the day he ships off to OCS until at least 3-4 years later, you'll probably measure your time together in single-digit weeks per year. You don't mention how long he has to go until retirement. With retirement now at...

I’m definitely missing the point of this post.

Is the pathway to commercial pilot “super expensive?” It’ll be a pay cut, but with your pay raise it might even out. Why does he not want to work as an instructor for a few years to build hours, then jump to the regionals? It would indeed take time, but much less time than wings+8+whatever...

I thought the war with Michigan ended. At least the kinetic part. Wisconsin lost

Good point.

Made me think about why folks drop out/don’t finish HS and whether those factors would impact naval service: Crime/arrest: prob wouldn’t be eligible anyways Pregnancy: I think most teenage mothers finish their GEDs at least, but I’d guess that if they make to the the recruiter, they’ll...

Do it

Kid, I spend enough of my life arguing with teenagers so I'm not going to do it here, too. This is it: You want context? I just saw this on the front page of AW here: ASTB: 63 8/8/7 (Second Attempt) Major: Mechanical Engineering (SUNY FARMINGDALE) GPA: 3.46 That's your competition. And, while...

Not the same. *You* can think it's the same, but it's not. the. same. If you want to get into Naval Aviation and do well, playing cop is not the way to do it.

Get familiar with this website, and in particular this document. Guidance on when intake communities expect you to apply to lateral transfer, be available, etc. Table A on Page 17 shows the picking order for the intake communities at various year groupings. So, for example, maybe you're YG 15...

Good info above, would just add that sometime around or past the half-point of OCS, once there's a high likelihood that his graduation date is known, he and his class will fill out all of the required paperwork for the PCS move to Pensacola. Also, in case it hasn't come up, please be aware...

Boeing wants to know the national origin of the pilot(s)--standard playbook for MAX incidents.

That's an important piece of the future of warfare in a nutshell. But I'm curious--are your concerns more for physical threats (i.e. getting shot down) or EW threats (loss of C2, mission kills, navigation spoofing, etc)?

I swear I've seen those, don't remember which state. How about a Battle "E"?

I know, and that’s why I never asked

AF LtCol I worked with had a Bronze Star. Good dude, but total desk jockey. I never asked how he got it because I suspected the answer would piss me off too badly

The V-247, in addition to being smaller, also folds into a small-ish footprint to be usable on CRUDES. Doesn't have the log capability, though.

Sure. But the apocryphal Henry Ford line, "If I asked them what they wanted, they would say a faster horse" sometimes very much applies to defense acquisition

I wouldn't call it gouge. Just wild-eyed thoughts of a platform that can fly out to a datum at 200+ ktas and then drop a dipping sonar and stay onstation for a few hours. You would know more about hover efficiency and whether it would work for a dipper. If it's a problem that can't be solved...

I used to think the same. But I just worked with an Olmsted guy (former helo bubba) who got an MP out of the squadron. Of course, probably got the MP because he was doing Olmsted, but I figure that if you're applying straight out of JO tour, then I'm pretty sure the Olmsted papers go in *before*...

There's this, but as with anything else in the Navy, much will be out of your control. So you might want Paris and end up in Libreville. Or worse, OPNAV. Have you considered an Olmsted application?

For the V-247, definitely as a CVW ASW platform, but also as a land- and DDG-based ASW platform. Could have the same group of dudes in a building in San Dog handing off prosecutions to each other from one asset to another. I know we have a lot of money invested in the P-8 program, but in thirty...

There will be. It'll be the V-280 or, more likely, the V-247--not the -22

What’s different from previous attempts?

Is that not what @MotorCookie posted the link to? I saw this in a LinkedIn post by a PERS admiral a few weeks ago. I like the idea--they analyzed board results and came up with a set a criteria which, if met by a candidate, essentially made them an auto-select. So skip the board and bring them...

Tagalog would have probably been very useful when i was an Air Department DIVO in Westpac. Could have understood the ABHs' sh!t-talking Otherwise, already mentioned, not as an aviator. Already knowing a language well enough to test 2/2 would help you on the lat transfer board if you want to...

Do you (all) believe, purely from a logical point of view, that people who are subjects of a totalitarian regime are more responsible for the actions of that regime than are the citizens of a elected government?

The answer is that sometimes (rarely) we do, and when we don't it's mostly because of competitiveness, career milestones, and the way we assign billets. If you're a EUCOM FAO and you need your next billet to be SDO/DATT, welp, there are only a handful of SDO/DATT billets in EUCOM for Navy...

Yeah, they’re trying to open up cross-AOR detailing more. But that leads to the very valid question: if expertise in a specific region isn’t necessary to be successful in a tour, then why do we need a whole separate community of regional experts?

It is. I'd say that most of the attache and ODC jobs are pretty great. So if you become and do at least two tours, chances are at least one will be awesome. But it probably won't be the one you want, think you are best qualified for, or even actually ARE best qualified for. But man, it's tough...

No, it's not particularly accurate. For someone coming in as an O-4, you'll probably get sent to a staff just so that you can get a hard-ish breakout (1 of 4 is better than 1 of 1) to set you up for the O-5 board, but generally you won't just bounce from staff to staff. The ones that do are...

Close enough. Before lat transferring, I had three OCONUS tours in a row. First orders after lat transfer: boom, OPNAV

Guys (all of you), I'm really with you on this. The Navy frequently does things that appear to make no sense because there's something driving a process that is not visible to anyone outside the halls of Millington or OPNAV. I mentioned that I lateral transferred--I became a FAO and had some...

So it's about the same as a 10-12 years ago when my peer group was starting our shore tours, with a little more emphasis on the WTI. I just looked at the bios of all the COs and XOs in the former Wing 2 (VP4, VP9, and VP47). One did Dallas. The other five all did disassociated tours (two of the...

It's okay to hate the Navy. And to be selfish. I'm missing something here...You're talking about disassociated tours as the "silver path." What's the golden path, then--these specialty jobs?

If the underlying cause of the Navy's pilot shortage actually is that the VTs where MPRA pilots can instruct are backed up due to a shortage of pilots (not a shortage of planes, or insufficient maintenance, or OBOGS problems, etc) and the Navy is pulling pilots from already undermanned VTs to go...

Hah. Typical Navy...

Exactly. But isn't there some program they came up with to keep pilots in the VTs?

This is a pretty limited take. VFA guys deploy to the boat. CAG staff (even as CAG paddles) is another boat tour. It's not a spit in the face to anyone, and especially not to the community where someone could theoretically go all the way to post-O5 command without ever setting foot on a Navy...

Gents, I completely agree with both of you regarding getting utility out of aviators after spending lots of money training them. I also agree there's got to be some kind of happy medium. My perspective is informed by working for a CNO who had spent his career in the sub nuke silo and was a...

I'm going to disagree with you gents about the disassociated tours. When I was a JO I hated the idea and thought the DHs were full of sh!t when they talked about how they enjoyed their disassociateds. Then I did mine (Shooter in Yokosuka). Dude, before my disassociated I didn't know jack about...

In my whole JO tour at KBay, I don't believe that I ever saw a plane land on 22. Not once. The trade winds were that consistent.

This war is impacting on global and US politics on a profound level. The level of this thread:

What did *I* miss?

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