Air show at MAKS

[speedroller]

Gotta give it to the Ruskies, that SU-35 flies nice!
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[MIDNJAC]

cool story, have done the same thing in a 1984 F/A-18B

 

[nittany03]

"Hey, look at the guy falling out of the sky with no energy . . . Fox 2. Kill Flanker, bull 323 at 30."

 

[wink]

cool story, have done the same thing in a 1984 F/A-18B

But did you do it on purpose?

 

[MIDNJAC]

But did you do it on purpose?

actually yes.......it was on the CNAF-waived one time only (per cone) OCF flight for the F/A-18A-D FRS syllabus

 

[jmcquate]

actually yes.......it was on the CNAF-waived one time only (per cone) OCF flight for the F/A-18A-D FRS syllabus

Hey.....rudder pedals are cool, they're not just foot rests.

 

[darrylcn]

Ok - Dumb "I'm not aircrew but I follow AW cause I'm a big plane geek" question - would anyone even employ a crazy maneuver like that in combat? Obv stopped is bad, so I wonder if it would be a hail mary thing or if it'd be avoided altogether in favor of traditional speed is life type stuff. Looking at it now I get the whole "sure, it's great at air shows.." of that and Cobra-ing.

 

[MIDNJAC]

Hey.....rudder pedals are cool, they're not just foot rests.

strangely enough, manual rudder inputs are not a part of OCF recovery in the hornet. I'm sure the flight controls are inputting them in that scenario if you get into spin recovery mode, but one of the first steps for the pilot is "feet off rudders"

 

[jmcquate]

strangely enough, manual rudder inputs are not a part of OCF recovery in the hornet. I'm sure the flight controls are inputting them in that scenario if you get into spin recovery mode, but one of the first steps for the pilot is "feet off rudders"

Really? So what are you doing, just forward sick opposite the rotation? On a related note, I was talking to a 101 IP today and he was telling me that the 35 basically traps itself. Even corrects for a seriously fucked upped start. All hail SkyNet.

 

[MIDNJAC]

Really? So what are you doing, just forward sick opposite the rotation? On a related note, I was talking to a 101 IP today and he was telling me that the 35 basically traps itself. Even corrects for a seriously fucked upped start. All hail SkyNet.

You basically just take your hands off the controls and go throttles idle. It almost always recovers pretty much right away after that, unless you are really trying (full cross control departure with pro-spin split throttles). If the departure is bad enough to invoke spin recovery mode, you get arrows on the DDI's that show you what direction to place the stick in.

 

[jmcquate]

The arrows were an add on to the DDI, when McDonnell Douglas made a claim that the Hornet couldn't be put into a spin, and a test pilot at PAX put it into a spin.

 

[MIDNJAC]

The arrows were an add on to the DDI, when McDonnell Douglas made a claim that the Hornet couldn't be put into a spin, and a test pilot at PAX put it into a spin.

Yeah, they made a lot of "fixes" to the aircraft early on......takeoff rudder toe-in, the strips on top of the LEX's, the cleats at the bottom of the vertical stabs, etc. The software that pretty much eliminated unrecoverable departures was actually much more recent history.