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Q'ns about retired airframe

Max the Mad Russian

Hands off Ukraine! Feet too
Folks,
Did anybody see original Brown Shoes? Here in Belarus, there is a museum of WWI and among things, there is one (left one) brown shoe with note "this shoe is an example of pioner American naval aviation shoes borrowed from cavalry to wear while piloting the first USN seaplanes". Snaps below. Is that real one?
 
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Max the Mad Russian

Hands off Ukraine! Feet too
Gents,

VADM Jerry O. Tuttle in one interview said that initial TACAMO project has been twofold - a set for C-2A and slightly different set for C-130. Why the former didn't materialize?
 

Renegade One

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Folks,
Did anybody see original Brown Shoes? Here in Belarus, there is a museum of WWI and among things, there is one (left one) brown shoe with note "this shoe is an example of pioner American naval aviation shoes borrowed from cavalry to wear while piloting the first USN seaplanes". Snaps below. Is that real one?
Footwear for the new US Navy aviation branch was anything but "well controlled". Various changes to uniform regs before and during WWI resulted in a wide variety of "authorized" footwear: drab canvas leggings, leather puttees, and a wide variety of "riding-style" boots obtained from many sources. The photo you show appears to be either "very gently used" or "reproduction" U.S. Army cavalry boots originally copied from the British, and called "Boots, Field, M1940 (3-buckle, Riding)". (Then) Captain George Patton is shown in old images wearing that (then unofficial) style while serving as ADC to Blackjack Pershing during the Punitive Expedition against Mexico.
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Here's a uniform plate showing the wide variety of uniforms AND footwear worn by aviators in the 1917-1918 period. I'm sure that the English cavalry boots (of various designs) were also worn when available.

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I have a pair of the same boots (modern manufacture) that I wear with an impression/reproduction Punitive Expedition-era cavalry uniform for shooting in "Wild Bunch" cowboy shooting matches.

Bottom line: If anything "looked cool and worked"...Naval Aviators probably got away with it.
 

Brett327

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Gents,

VADM Jerry O. Tuttle in one interview said that initial TACAMO project has been twofold - a set for C-2A and slightly different set for C-130. Why the former didn't materialize?
Based on your recent recommendations for shipboard Osprey operations, that question would seem to answer itself. You're slipping, Max. Russia too, slipping. What else might you be overlooking?
 

Max the Mad Russian

Hands off Ukraine! Feet too
Gents,
Another one: why the ADM James Holloway III being fresh winged LT just before Korean War rated Vought AU-1 as "second best", worse than Douglas AD-1? Final Corsair was battle-proven, after all, while Skyraider's fame was still uncertain then...
 
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