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GOUGE CMP M1 Garands - Opportunity

HAL Pilot

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I've been toying on buying a ménage à trois of the M1903 Springfield, M1 Garand and M1 Carbine for about a year. Finally said fuck it, I'm doing it.

BTW, I know NOTHING about guns.... I'm not even sure if I'll shoot them more than once or twice, I just like the history.



I just bought this 1903 Springfield

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/673733022



I have a $1200 bid in on this M1 Garand. What do you guys think of it?

I called the seller, He said there were no rearsenal stamps and correct original stamps on all the various parts so he's claiming it is all original. He says it is definitely original parts but no guarantee it all original from the factory. I.e. might have had parts swapped in service. Current owner has had it since early 1970s and says he has not changed any parts. He gives a week inspection period after receipt so if I win, I can get a refund if it isn't as advertised.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/670607269



I'm also considering these M1 Carbines. I'm thinking I'll go as high as $1200 for a good one. What do you guys think of any of these?

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/674913653

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/676106038

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/676115292

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/671023075 -- this auction ends in about 7 hours so would have to move fast on it.
 

707guy

"You can't make this shit up..."
Had no idea that there was a store in Port Clinton. I'm about an hour away - must make the trip one of these days.
 

TimeBomb

Noise, vibration and harshness
Nicely done! Be sure and take the Garand to the range for some .30-06 badassery. Guaranteed to draw a crowd.
R/
 

LFDtoUSMC

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Please find a safe and effective (i.e. hard to move) storage solution that fits for your collection. Seeing all of those beautiful rifles reminds me to share a sad story.

My collection ( 3 x M-1 Garands, 1 x M-1 Carbine, and various others) walked out my front door in January thanks to some real assholes. I am in a rental house and just had the safe in a back closet, not lagged into the concrete slab, or secured to the wall. (STUPID, I KNOW!)

They (the thieves) literally picked up, and walked the entire safe out the front door. It was a medium size 14 gun safe (252 lbs empty, with 12 guns inside). No dollies, as there were no wheel marks on the carpet.

Of course there have been no leads. But, I can not blame the Sheriffs Office, property crime here has gone way up lately.

So, to open up a new discussion. How do you store and secure your weapons?

And, to add to the pictures...my first Garand, a 1942 Springfield, 726841. Damn she was fun to shoot. And an absolute tack driver, with Greek Surplus.
 

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Gatordev

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That first shot is a nice one. Are the round-tap marks on the stock original or from you?

My solution for someone walking out with my safe was buying a safe that weighs more than a thousand pounds. Although some dickhead did steal a Pelican 1750 case out of my garage in San Diego. Fortunately nothing was in it.
 

LFDtoUSMC

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Thank you, it took a few tries to get that.

All markings are original. I was fortunate enough to get original GI wood on all four of my CMP rifles. I never stripped them down to bare wood or attempted to "repair" the wood by smoothing out the dents. All I used was heat to bring out at much of the cosmoline as I could and then would wipe it down with mineral spirits. I liked the patina that time had left on them.

You can see a bit of cosmoline still weeping out of the wood in that second shot.
 

z3kracer

My cat's breath smells like cat food.
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I procrastinated and missed the boat on the specific M1 that ChuckMK23 originally posted about (RM1SPECIALFIELD, Sold Out 14 August 2017). I'd like to procure a CMP M1 before I miss-out again. I was eyeing the available Service Grade rifle ($730), but there is also the Field Grade rifle ($830) still available. What constitutes the $100 difference in price, when I would expect that between the two, the Service Grade rifle is ostensibly the rifle in better condition? Should I jump on one of these now, wait for another "good deal" or look elsewhere for my M1?
 

ChuckMK23

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pilot
I procrastinated and missed the boat on the specific M1 that ChuckMK23 originally posted about (RM1SPECIALFIELD, Sold Out 14 August 2017). I'd like to procure a CMP M1 before I miss-out again. I was eyeing the available Service Grade rifle ($730), but there is also the Field Grade rifle ($830) still available. What constitutes the $100 difference in price, when I would expect that between the two, the Service Grade rifle is ostensibly the rifle in better condition? Should I jump on one of these now, wait for another "good deal" or look elsewhere for my M1?

Difference is purely barrel and chamber wear. I would go with Service Grade. The condition specifications are very conservative and in favor of the buyer. You will get a rifle that is much nicer then as specified in the grade description that you choose, believe me.

Remember that these are parts guns. Entire lots of rifles are received in various conditions or sometimes received as bins of parts. A highly skilled armorer assembles a rifle from bins of parts that have been meticulously clean and inspected. Once a working rifle is put together and it is test fired for accuracy and safety, the rifle is assigned a grade and put up for sale.

The rifle grades are minimum and in all cases I have witnessed, rifles are delivered in much better condition than the grade specified. Long story short, it remains bargain.
 
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Gatordev

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I don't think they test fire the rifle. Or if they do now, that's new. Two of mine would have been completely non-functional if they had tried due to all the grease.
 

ChuckMK23

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pilot
I don't think they test fire the rifle. Or if they do now, that's new. Two of mine would have been completely non-functional if they had tried due to all the grease.


All M1's leaving Anniston are check for headspacing and test fired.
 

Gatordev

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All M1's leaving Anniston are check for headspacing and test fired.

They may be now, but I'm telling you, there is no possible way two of my older ones would have functioned. Unless they dipped the whole rifle back into a vat of Cosmoline after they test fire it.

It would make sense that they are test-fired now, since so many of them are parts guns, and many of the parts are new (specifically the barrels).
 
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