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FY 18 IWC DCO BOARD

Crippy011

You live by the gouge, you die by the gouge
(ISC)^2 is a money making machine and their "claims" are a bunch of b.s. The only thing the CISSP certifies is your ability to memorize material to take and to pass a test. A couple of acquaintances, that I would never hire, take these tests for sport. One of the individuals has over 12 certifications. The other is tracking at over 5.

There was a good presentation a few years ago:
http://attrition.org/security/conferences/why_you_should_not_get_a_CISSP-public.pdf

With commentary here:
https://b10w.wordpress.com/2012/08/01/regarding-the-cissp/

The issue here is that people that get the CISSP without experience is the issue. At the end of the day, it's a good way to discriminate between two individuals with similar experience.
While it may require memorization, there are certain aspects of the certification that do require analytical thinking.

Please feel free to add me on LinkedIn.
 

shiner237

Member
Finally time to contact an OR. I live in Tampa, FL and am currently in the USAFR. Anyone have a contact for a good (responsive) OR that serves my area? I'm not a big fan of cold calling some random number found on google.
 
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FormerRecruitingGuru

Making Recruiting Great Again
Finally time to contact an OR. I live in Tampa, FL and am currently in the USAFR. Anyone have a contact for a good (responsive) OR that serves my area? I'm not a big fan of cold calling some random number found on google.

Best bet is to contact the local recruiting office and ask to speak to their DIVO. More than likely they'll help you out.
 

USNAVY

Active Member
I had my interview for INTEL today and it went really well. Made a good connection with the interviewers and the OIC. However, they all said my experience makes me more suited for IP. I don't have a technology / Computer Science degree so I wasn't really sure what to make of that. Does anyone have a copy of the IP Program Authorization? I cannot seem to find it online..
 

devilbones

Arashikage トーマス・嵐影
I had my interview for INTEL today and it went really well. Made a good connection with the interviewers and the OIC. However, they all said my experience makes me more suited for IP. I don't have a technology / Computer Science degree so I wasn't really sure what to make of that. Does anyone have a copy of the IP Program Authorization? I cannot seem to find it online..
Sounds pretty good. Where are you at? See attached.
 

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devilbones

Arashikage トーマス・嵐影
Thanks. I am looking at the PA and I don't know why they said I am better suited for IP. Scratching my head
You can list your credentials here if you like. I think most in the last thread listed at least their degree, experience, prior service and certs.
 

USNAVY

Active Member
You can list your credentials here if you like. I think most in the last thread listed at least their degree, experience, prior service and certs.
- Prior OS2 (A School Honor Graduate)
- 2 NAMs
-Battle E /Sea Service / Global War on Terrorism Service / Expeditionary
- Good Conduct and Honorable Discharge
- MP/EP/EP Evals
- 3 O6 references / 2 O5s / 1 Professor
- Military leadership / substitute teaching leadership / Academic Coordinator - Advising leadership / lead analysts / Conduct software training (operating software databases) not coding or networking
- Currently a Configuration Management Analyst defense contractor for the Navy
- Database Administrator ( I build data structures in our software and organize project data)
- Undergrad History degree minor in Communications
- Masters degree (Corporate and Public Communications) in progress (3.875 GPA, they were impressed with my GPA, said that was great and shows my trend moving upward on a bell curve or something similar)
- Certified in our Configuration Management Software / and Configuration Management
- Completed 8 Defense Acquisition University courses (working on an Information Technology cert)
 
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exNavyOffRec

Well-Known Member
Thanks. I am looking at the PA and I don't know why they said I am better suited for IP. Scratching my head

I will say I am kind of perplexed as well, my concern would be that the OIC's thoughts don't line up with those of the board, or that while your current work may align more with IP that when you are stacked against the other IP applicants your experience won't be as great as what they have done.

The advantage is you are a younger applicant so you aren't up against an age clock which means you can keep improving your experience and finish that Masters.
 

FormerRecruitingGuru

Making Recruiting Great Again
According to our OIC who's sat on the board they want STEM-related majors, in particular Computer Science/Engineering and cybersecurity majors.
 

USNAVY

Active Member
I will say I am kind of perplexed as well, my concern would be that the OIC's thoughts don't line up with those of the board, or that while your current work may align more with IP that when you are stacked against the other IP applicants your experience won't be as great as what they have done.

The advantage is you are a younger applicant so you aren't up against an age clock which means you can keep improving your experience and finish that Masters.
Right. And I know I don't have a shot against those who have those type of degrees /certifications so I'm wondering what kind of write up the OIC will write. Will they say i am more geared towards one designator or say i would fit well into the community as a whole? I will say I impressed all 3 of them. The OIC told me they are looking for younger guys they can get more time out of. Reminder i am 31 turning 32 this summer. So I'm just a little confused why they all thought that. Does it matter how I order my 3 based on how the board will select? I would prefer (Intel, IP, IW).
 
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USNAVY

Active Member
According to our OIC who's sat on the board they want STEM-related majors, in particular Computer Science/Engineering and cybersecurity majors.
I am totally with you on that. That's why it didn't compute after I left. My education and experience I feel is more closely related to INTEL
 

exNavyOffRec

Well-Known Member
Right. And I know I don't have a shot against those who have those type of degrees /certifications so I'm wondering what kind of write up the OIC will write. Will they say i am more geared towards one designator or say i would fit well into the community as a whole? I will say I impressed all 3 of them. The OIC told me they are looking for younger guys they can get more time out of. Reminder i am 31 turning 32 this summer. So I'm just a little confused why they all thought that. Does it matter how I order my 3 based on how the board will select? I would prefer (Intel, IP, IW).

The thing is with DCO usually a person just goes for Intel or IP or IW and then has interviews geared specifically for that designator, IWC also has a 60/40 split for tech/non-tech degrees so that also comes into play, not sure how that will look if you put Intel first and he says you should be IP, it would be interesting to see what he puts for your scores.
 

USNAVY

Active Member
The thing is with DCO usually a person just goes for Intel or IP or IW and then has interviews geared specifically for that designator, IWC also has a 60/40 split for tech/non-tech degrees so that also comes into play, not sure how that will look if you put Intel first and he says you should be IP, it would be interesting to see what he puts for your scores.
It was for INTEL. But my recruiter put me in for the other designators to give me a shot at the others. I feel if I put IP as number one I would be wasting my number one choice. I am just confused to be honest
 
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sqlfunkateer

New Member
Sounds pretty good. Where are you at? See attached.
Thanks very much!!! I've been hunting for that for a while now myself. Do you know if it is the latest version, because it doesn't reference the 20wk IP Basic (active duty version) for reservists in it...not sure if they have updated the doc to reflect that yet?
 
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