Quick question from a guy who left a Navy cockpit back in 2002: Are NVGs used for night traps and/or around the boat these days? If not, any prognostication?
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NVGs at the boat?
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And NVD vertrep too!
I've had discussions with HSM peers of mine (now DH level) as to relative merits of NVDs on the boat. The HSM guys seemed to still be a mixed bag as to whether NVDs were here to stay or just some sort of fad. HS guys and LHD HC guys were all in for the big NVD win. HC USNS guys historically didn't have enough exposure and it was different from how they were used to operating (unaided) so therefore it was a change to be feared and resisted.
Your peers are weirdos. Over the deck, I don't really need them and actually prefer it without them as I'm looking underneath them anyway. Otherwise from takeoff to returning and crossing the deck edge (at least on a small boy), they're like a comfy security blanket, especially on the approach.
quelle horreur!
We did NVD vertrep on my 2007 det, before there were prohibitions against it.
No problems whatsoever.
Came back, included it as part of our LL brief, and *cue shitstorm.*
NVGS; also good for tanking (to a certain point), and waving jets with failed pos lights - allegedly.
The Navy Not-Invented-Here mentality with regards to NVG's (especially for rotary wing) is inexplicable. You would never see a US Military non US Navy helicopter flying unaided since about 1990. Take Coast Guard - fellow Naval Aviators - who think unaided around the boat is just insane and pathologically unsafe.
I can't explain it myself. Likely is somehow linked to how we train at undergraduate level (HT's) and lack of NVG there.
If you are a Navy O-5/O-6 Helo guy/girl in an active ops role you need to be slapped.
I can't explain it myself. Likely is somehow linked to how we train at undergraduate level (HT's) and lack of NVG there.
If you are a Navy O-5/O-6 Helo guy/girl in an active ops role you need to be slapped.
I'm not really sure where you're getting this from. There is no "aided" or "unaided" anymore when it comes to night quals. Night time is night time. If you aren't putting goggles on, it's a specific crew's decision.
The HTs have had NVG training for just short of a decade. HSL had NVGs since the late '90's. HS had them since before that.
And again, at least on the HSM side, Navy O-5s and O-6s are all in on NODs, operationally. Historically, maybe not, but nowadays, all the rotary CDREs and below are fully behind them.
NODs? You get a nod for the throwback term. Shall we discuss how to don and doff them?
HSC maintained a requirement for aided and unaided until sometime around 08-09 until it went away and was only a night qual.
Same, same for HSL. I believe it was a all rotary/SHARP change and not community specific, but if it was, it was in concert with each other.