And air conditioning.
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And air conditioning.
If you want to shoot stuff and blow shit up, it basically comes down to Hornets, Harriers, and Cobras. If by offensive support you meant offensive air support then this is probably where you want to be. If you just meant supporting the grunts, then as mentioned above pretty much any USMC platform will let you do that. Like Fly USMC said, if you go jets you have about a 95% chance of flying Harriers or Hornets if you make it through, I think the odds of getting Cobras if you go helos are much less.
Also, ask yourself if flying single piloted and possibly single seat is important to you or even appeals to you. I'm sure Fly USMC and most other jet dudes would agree that it kicks ass, but then again we've never really had the crew experience to compare it to other than flying with instructors.
Also, ask yourself if flying single piloted and possibly single seat is important to you or even appeals to you. I'm sure Fly USMC and most other jet dudes would agree that it kicks ass, but then again we've never really had the crew experience to compare it to other than flying with instructors.
nice sig kbaydog 
"Do you like to put fish stick in your mouth?"
"Do you like to put fish stick in your mouth?"
He also called you all girls later on that night in the War Room when he stopped by for a beer.
Marine Jets put the largest amount of ordnance on target (compared to the rest of Marine Air), so that pretty much covers your grunt support needs..... .....There's also this rumor about helos being pretty slow
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1. I may only be a 1 pump UHC but I can't tell you how many times I heard "off cold, no drop" as a co-pilot when our section was doing FAC(A). Skids fire the most ordnance, period!!!
2. As far as supporting grunts, I'd say as an assault pilot you have the closest relationship, skid pilots are a close second. Assault guys take a lot of pride in putting grunts in zone at H-hour and picking them up at the right time in the right zone.
3. Helo's being slow? I'll make a 53 beg for knots!
do you want to be a trigger puller or not? support helos are great and do a ton of stuff. strike/attack aircraft missions are just different (aka not better) there is deffinately more work (studing) in these platforms dont let anyone fool you on that.
One point for me was to be a single seat guy out of pure enjoyment of flying my aircraft how I like and not worrying about someone next to me or behind me.
Solo flying is great, but highly demanding. Its all on you.
One point for me was to be a single seat guy out of pure enjoyment of flying my aircraft how I like and not worrying about someone next to me or behind me.
Solo flying is great, but highly demanding. Its all on you.
For some perspective...
This was actually a problem that was identified about 2 years ago and as a result, they realized they needed to start detailing (sorry, "monitoring") more pointy-nose guys to Primary. Within about 8 months or so, they started showing up (at least at Whiting) and started instructing about a year ago.
The whole point was to have more guys to talk up the communities before selection for the exact reason you mentioned...Marine jet selection numbers were falling. When I was instructing at the time, I know I over heard studs talk about how "their buddy" was shacking an event so their NSS would go down and they could dodge the jet draft that was going on at the time.
This was actually a problem that was identified about 2 years ago and as a result, they realized they needed to start detailing (sorry, "monitoring") more pointy-nose guys to Primary. Within about 8 months or so, they started showing up (at least at Whiting) and started instructing about a year ago.
The whole point was to have more guys to talk up the communities before selection for the exact reason you mentioned...Marine jet selection numbers were falling. When I was instructing at the time, I know I over heard studs talk about how "their buddy" was shacking an event so their NSS would go down and they could dodge the jet draft that was going on at the time.
That's a good point too. For you helo guys out there, do you ever get tired of having someone looking over your shoulder?
That's a good point too. For you helo guys out there, do you ever get tired of having someone looking over your shoulder?
Absolutely not!!! Much of what is done in helos requires the entire crew. For example, dusty landings or externals where one person has reference isn't rare. I wouldn't consider it as 'looking over your shoulder' but rather a system of checks and balances...you start of as more of a balance and become more of a check as you gain experience.
That said, I can still kill a junior guy just as easy as he can me so by doing something stupid. That's why it is important that everybody is engaged. Sure, a salty dude still has to do some crushing occasionally but it is also the salty dudes that are more prone to balling up an aircraft as they typically will fly the more demanding flights either operationally or in training so somebody else with them for a sanity-check is a GOOD thing.
My opinions come from the assault support community but I imagine skid dudes feel the same. I'm certain one or two will chime in.
Incidentally, the blurb about assault support being the equivalent of ground support MOS's is complete and total bullshit...EVERY platform is in a supporting role for the Marines on the ground in some capacity. Furthermore, there are even people that ask for and enjoy it. It all boils down to picking what you like and liking what you get. Good luck!!!
Absolutely not!!! Much of what is done in helos requires the entire crew. For example, dusty landings or externals where one person has reference isn't rare. I wouldn't consider it as 'looking over your shoulder' but rather a system of checks and balances...you start of as more of a balance and become more of a check as you gain experience.
That said, I can still kill a junior guy just as easy as he can me so by doing something stupid. That's why it is important that everybody is engaged. Sure, a salty dude still has to do some crushing occasionally but it is also the salty dudes that are more prone to balling up an aircraft as they typically will fly the more demanding flights either operationally or in training so somebody else with them for a sanity-check is a GOOD thing.
My opinions come from the assault support community but I imagine skid dudes feel the same. I'm certain one or two will chime in.
Incidentally, the blurb about assault support being the equivalent of ground support MOS's is complete and total bullshit...EVERY platform is in a supporting role for the Marines on the ground in some capacity. Furthermore, there are even people that ask for and enjoy it. It all boils down to picking what you like and liking what you get. Good luck!!!
Completely depends on your selection week. When I selected, everyone selecting in my squadron got what they wanted. The same wasn't true for the other squadron across the ramp, and I know a number of guys selecting within a couple months of me who didn't get what they wanted either. Bottom line is that you will go where they tell you, right?
They arent "looking over your shoulder" per se. Have I wished or felt like I was flying by myself (and wished I was) and the other guy was just there to talk over radio calls-sure but it doesnt hapen that often.
There is no auto pilot in helicopters so on long transits it is nice to give up the controls stretch etc.
Dont believe all the single seat hype, some of it is true but your first year or so is following some section lead around who will treat you like everyone else treats their copilots. Their inter-flight sounds like our ICS.
Multi seat aircraft are assigned missions that the single seat cant accomplish. FAC(A) comes to mind yeah yeah yeah the single seat guys have a syllabus and can do the mission as long as the following conditions are met: CO, XO, OpsO, AMO or WTI is your wingman, no credible AAA threat exists and the AirO on the ground actually buys the whole single seat FAC(A) thing.
Good luck on selection.
No more so than any other aviator. Not a single seat guy don't claim to be one. However this notion that a single seat pilot is out lone wolf hunting the enemy is in no ways accurate. A new single seat guy will be on one of the old guys wing doing what he is told.
Concur with all quoted above, good luck there are no bad choices.