Starting Advanced

[MasterBates]

Start goes kinda like this:

Yep.. Everything is on/off as needed.
Battery on, ICS, Gas, Lights Tones.
Paddle NWS off.
GTS Start, Main Start, Turn crap on.
Runup/Cont AUG/Trim/ATIS
Wipeout/Checks
Done.

Consult checklist if unsure.

 

[MasterBates]

Bunky, I believe it is NSS at the end of the part formerly known as Phase 1.

 

[sevenhelmet]

Advice to all: Chairfly the checklists; you should be doing them from memory by the time you finish FAMS. I also had a student hand-me-down mini version that I used to back myself up. Check to make sure it is complete, but there are some good gouge checklists out there along with Kings 1 MOA gouge for the Kingsville guys.

 

[FLYTPAY]

Any advice on what to start looking over before starting advanced??? Also, does anybody know about any good gouge for advanced??

http://www.airwarriors.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137603
Here is the checklist and some other stuff.

 

[Kycntryboy]

Thats very nice, your explanation that is, but it has nothing to do with answering my question. Does anyone know the criteria for selecting jets vice E2/C2? Is it based on an NSS, FCLP grades, etc?

I can offer only what we have been told, I'm in the first "Tailhook" class. The Commodore has told us that only the guy who finishes first will get what he/she wants, the rest would be up for a quality spread. I believe all factors you have listed will go into the decision with a board once we finish Phase I, The people in charge of the pipeline told us two out of five of us would be going, the Commodore told us at least one is going, if their is a volunteer they go, if not they will find one. But I have come to understand its pretty fluid, If a guy can't handle ACM in phase II but is a good stick, he'll take one of the spots of the classes up for selection. They wanted us to be done with phase I by mid-April, It took our class a month to get through BI's (11 sims 3 hops), not to optimistic with that projection because everyones stuck in FAMs.

 

[BaconUSMC]

Selection is based primarily on NSS, but if a student did extremely well in instruments (which is about 60% of Phase I) and flies formation like crap, he/she should not be surprised to see selection for the E2/c2 pipieline. It's not straight NSS, but up to the board / CO. As soon as we have one, we may be able to provide more info. Bacon

 

[bolterking]

learn how to strap in prior to your first BI flight

S/F

Don't write a myspace story about it either

 

[bolterking]

get the jet started but make sure you get everything done however you want.

Agree. Starts are not that difficult. Can be memorized in a week if that... Off, safe, Norm....fire it up....review.

Don't need a checklist to tell me what Warning lights should be illuminated.

Another piece of advise to those entering FAM's....memorize working areas. Have all this checklist stuff memorized so you can focus on flying and not heads down in cockpit looking up area management, or penetration checklist. Put all this stuff to memory, and then you can focus on flight.

 

[bolterking]

Thats very nice, your explanation that is, but it has nothing to do with answering my question. Does anyone know the criteria for selecting jets vice E2/C2? Is it based on an NSS, FCLP grades, etc?

There is no hard and fast criteria. It depends and all those are taken into consideration.

 

[jarhead]

Anyone know the criteria for selecting jets vs E2/C2??

can't positively answer that yet but one thing is for certain ... those dudes that get selected for E2/C2 out of this "Tailhook" experiment will be in for a rude awakening when they show up at Corpus for their prop training ... with their arrogance from being carrier qualed and the laid back atmosphere in T-45 briefs, I wonder how many of the students will go into their first prop flight unprepared and get ready room downs …

S/F

 

[bolterking]

laid back atmosphere in T-45 briefs

You speaking from experience and facts on these briefs? Be careful about throwing that out there in forum.

 

[bolterking]

can't positively answer that yet but one thing is for certain ... those dudes that get selected for E2/C2 out of this "Tailhook" experiment will be in for a rude awakening when they show up at Corpus for their prop training ... with their arrogance from being carrier qualed and the laid back atmosphere in T-45 briefs, I wonder how many of the students will go into their first prop flight unprepared and get ready room downs …

S/F

You do bring up a good point that CNATRA is finding out across all TRAWING's and that is arrogance in flight training and worth noting. Wings still have to be earned and seems to be an increase in belief that they (students) "deserve" their wings.

There is indeed a fine line and very fine line at that with regards to cocky/arrogance and confidence. Naval Aviation needs those confident type A personalities but can do with out the cocky arrogant pr**k.

 

[SemperGumbi]

You speaking from experience and facts on these briefs? Be careful about throwing that out there in forum.

The briefs for T-45 land are pretty chill, at least on the flying side of the house.

If you are a moron, it will shine through. But as long as you actually know the stuff that is occasionally asked of you in the brief the stress level is low. The IP briefs what you are going to do, doesn't grill you about stupid shit ("who manufactures the ______ and what is it's length in centimeters..."). Honestly, I thought it was a much better instructing environment....as in the insturctors actually used that time to instruct vs. test knowledge.

 

[Pap]

... with their arrogance from being carrier qualed and the laid back atmosphere in T-45 briefs, I wonder how many of the students will go into their first prop flight unprepared and get ready room downs …

S/F

I thought that "laid back" atmosphere was great for learning. I was never hesitant to ask questions and the IP's were always willing to take time out of their day to answer any questions I had.

What’s wrong with not being stressed out? Know your s*** and then go fly the airplane. Why must people always try to make things harder than they are?

If a stud does get a ready room down (BTW, not the end of the world), I guarantee you that it will be his last one. All of these guys had to do well in primary to get where they are. I am sure that they all know how/when to study. Now if some IP wants to give downs just to prove a point (maybe he cant differentiate confidence from arrogance), that’s another matter.

 

[jarhead]

my point is, IMO I think dudes are going to get a shotgun blast to the face if they roll into a TC-12/T-44 brief thinking it's gonna be similar to a T-45 brief.

You speaking from experience and facts on these briefs? Be careful about throwing that out there in forum.

I have a little bit of T-45 experience ...